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  • #29327

    Howie
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    Hello everyone,
    I have a question about pronunciation. As I study Japanese more and more, I’m discovering that many words contain whispered or silent sounds.

    I just want to confirm that for student, がくせい, it is pronounced gaksei (no “u” sound) rather than gakusei. And for “not want”, ほしくない, it is pronounced hoshkunai (no “i” sound) rather than hoshikunai.

    Is there a rule for this? Or is it something that I learn as I go along?

    Howie

    #29328

    Gigatron
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    I wouldn’t say it’s a “rule” per se, it’s just how most people pronounce it.

    Granted, pronouncing the “u” in がくせい might make you sound a smidge “odd” to native speakers, perhaps, but it wouldn’t be because it was incorrect, just unusual.

    I wouldn’t sweat it for now. In time, as you study further and listen to native speakers talk, you’ll start to pick up the flow on your own without even thinking about it.

    #29332

    zeldaskitten
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    “i” sounds and “u” sounds get dropped/barely pronounced a LOT

    =^..^=
    #29333

    thisiskyle
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    Pronouncing everything is fine, might sound a bit strange but no more so than someone who never used contractions.

    #29342

    Howie
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    Thanks for everyone’s input!

    I’m now trying to figure out how to say あたたかくなかった smoothly!

    #29343

    zeldaskitten
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    ahhh my favorite word to say! I felt so accomplished when I mastered it :P

    =^..^=
    #29355

    I guess a slight “rule” would be that you don’t ever really contract a syllable that comes before a voiced syllable (i.e. with dakuten), and it’s (as far as I know) only ever an unvoiced syllable that gets contracted. し and く are the main ones that get contracted, I think.

    #29358

    Joel
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    す also.

    There’s actually quite a few words that have the unspoken vowel actually built into their readings by replacing the second mora with a small つ. 学校 is the perfect example – just looking at the kanji, you’d expect the reading to be がくこう, but with the u-sound being suppressed, it comes out as がっこう, which is how it’s actually read.

    #29397

    Howie
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    I just found a good blog post about pronunciation:
    http://nihognodaybydayenglish.blogspot.com/2011/02/desu-or-des.html

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