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    So in lesson 6 で, we have the sentence レストランで フォークで たべました,
    at the restaurant I ate with (by way of) a fork, could you also use と here instead of で? saying you ate with the fork? Would both be correct/one more correct than the other? Thanks for your time!

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    Joel
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    No, フォークと would mean you ate with a fork as your dining companion – that is, in the sense of “I ate dinner with a friend”. =P

    Though they both use “with” in English, the meaning is different in Japanese. The meaning of the particle で is, as you observed, something closer to “by means of”, but since it’d be downright clunky to use that phrasing in English, it’s normally rendered as “with”.

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    No, フォークと would mean you ate with a fork as your dining companion – that is, in the sense of “I ate dinner with a friend”. =P

    Though they both use “with” in English, the meaning is different in Japanese. The meaning of the particle で is, as you observed, something closer to “by means of”, but since it’d be downright clunky to use that phrasing in English, it’s normally rendered as “with”.

    Arigatou Joel-Senpai :)

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