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Has anyone here used the textbook 上級へのとびら? How did you find it? I had a flick through a copy and it looks pretty good as an intermediate textbook; however, I’ve heard someone say that finishing it is equivalent to N4 but that can’t be right? It looks like it has *way* more stuff in it than you’d need for N4. I can’t really say for sure because I’ve done neither but that doesn’t sound right to me :P
I’ve been using Tobira in my third-year classes at uni (first two years we used Nakama). It’s pretty good – almost exclusively Japanese-only – though I couldn’t say what its JLPT equivalence is. Mind you, I do find some of the things it calls “grammar” to be a bit silly. And also, you gotta buy the kanji textbook and grammar workbook separately.
Still, in a year of classes, we’ll have only studied about two-thirds of the book, and it doesn’t feel like we’re going terribly slow, so I guess it’s fairly information-packed.
What sort of “grammar” do you find silly? Is it stuff that you wouldn’t really refer to as grammar but is still useful?
Basically, yeah. Things like 型 or まず, which are vocab rather than grammar, or 気がする, which is more usage than grammar. And occasionally stuff I learnt in Nakama long ago, like そんな/こんな/あんな…
If you want it, I can send you my copy. Email me at missingno15(at)gmail(dot)com
I never used it in a class setting, only as a supplement/reference book and to learn whatever I could from the grammar glossary in the back. Although its definitely made to be used within a classroom setting. If you reach the end of the book, I say its probably about the lower end of N3.
@missingno15: I’d love to but I’m guessing the postage would be quite high, me living across the waters n all. Unless it’s not a physical copy you’re talking about… which I definitely didn’t already look for and found nothing :/ Yeah, it looks like a lot of the content is for use in the classroom but that doesn’t bother me – I really don’t care about filling in the blanks or answering “Who did Tanaka-san meet while at the bank?”, I just like the look of all the readings and example sentences that come with the grammar points.
I’ll pay for it
That’s… fairly generous haha. How much would you want for it? I’m assuming imported books from Japan are fairly cheaper in the States than in the UK, being a lot closer.
That’s… fairly generous haha.
It’s because there’s no AKB48 in it. He wants to be rid of it. =P
Imported books from Japan are not any cheaper probably. I just don’t need the book anymore and I’m trying to clean out my room so you would be helping me out by taking this book off my hands. I don’t want anything for it, but if you are willing to pay for shipping then thats good.
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