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Hi everybody!
I thought I would just give a quick introduction, my name is Olivia and I am a 19 year old hotel receptionist from midland England. This is my second attempt at learning japanese and I’ve come back more determined than ever before. I adore everything to do with the culture and my dream is to one day live and work in Japan. It’s great to meet you all!
Liv.こんいちは！
Welcome to TextFugu, I’m also from England.. And it’s also my second attempt at learing Japanese.. Although I’m about 4 months in without missing a day of study :)
btw, I think it’s みんな/みなさん and usually written in Kana.. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong!
btw, I think it’s みんな/みなさん and usually written in Kana.. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong!
I don’t think it’s usually written in kana. I’ve certainly seen it written both ways, in any case, and my dictionary doesn’t have any note indicating so.
One error that both of you have made differenty, though: it’s こんにちは =)
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btw, I think it’s みんな/みなさん and usually written in Kana.. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong!I don’t think it’s usually written in kana. I’ve certainly seen it written both ways, in any case, and my dictionary doesn’t have any note indicating so.
Ah, thanks for the info :)
One error that both of you have made differenty, though: it’s こんにちは =)
Oops, typo
エゲイー 4 months, that’s great! Keep up the good work.
I’ve been taught that it is in fact 皆さん opposed to みんあさん, but perhaps it can be spelt in hiragana too, thank you very much for the correction.
And Joel, of course it’s こんいちは、how on earth did I forget the ん? :p thank you for your correction also :)
こんいちは！
みんあさん
こんいちは
Yeah, one tricky thing when using an IME: be careful when ん is followed immediately by a な-, や- or あ-line character. The IME does weird things when you’re typing ん – namely, if you just type ‘n’, it’s going to wait and see what you do next, and it’ll only parse it once you’ve typed the next character, whatever it may be.
If you type ‘n’ then ‘a’, it’s going to read it as ‘na’ and type な, even if you meant to write んあ. However, if you write ‘n’ then ‘na’, it’s actually going to read ‘nn’ then ‘a’, and give you んあ. Similarly, trying to write んや as “nya” is going to give you にゃ. If the ん is followed by some other random consonant, like in せんぱい, say, then you’re not going to have any confusion, because something going ‘np’ isn’t ambigious at all in Japanese – it’s gotta be an ん.
So, if you want to type こんにちは, you need to either type “konnnichiha” (that’s three consecutive Ns, yes) or “kon’nichiha”. Whichever is easiest works for you. Ditto for みんな.
I’ve been taught that it is in fact 皆さん opposed to みんあさん, but perhaps it can be spelt in hiragana too, thank you very much for the correction.
Everything can be written in hiragana, for various linguistic and stylistic effects. Sometimes it’s even written in katakana – among other things, that’s the Japanese equivalent of italics.
You’re right, I use swipe for typing Japanese text and it doesn’t pick up the んs. Thanks so much for the tips. I’ll be sure to remember that for next time.
ありがとう。こんにちは、Liv! Do you have any particular aspirations for what you want to do for a living in Japan?
Not from the desk of Eihiko. Eihiko's boss took his desk away from him.Hi Eihiko, I’d love to teach English in Japan, but I don’t have a degree and I’ve been told it’s necessary to have one to do so. So I’m really not sure, even if I can’t, it would still be fantastic to know a second language, we get all kinds of foreigners from all over the world at my hotel, I think it would be extraordinary to be able to have conversations with them in their native tongue.
You need a degree in order to get the working visa from the government – the requirement is not directly related to the job itself. There are ways around it, I think, but they’re complex, and I think require someone to sponsor you.
Welcome to the party! As a welcoming gift, I bring you good news!
Because you’re an English citizen and living in England you can apply for a working holiday visa. Basically you don’t need any qualifications, just save up some money (in Canada it’s $2500, not sure what your requirements are, but I’d think like £1500) and have a return flight. Then you fill out an application and when you get approved you get 12 months abroad. As far as working, it’s apparently stupidly easy for native English speakers to get a job teaching.
EDIT: I just went and read the link I’ve given a couple paragraphs down and I was dead on with my guess of how much money you need.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-oOh98WaVI
That video is for Australia but it’s largely the same process. It’s also an hour and a half long so if you don’t watch the whole thing I don’t blame you lol. I watched it but I’m a very dedicated person.http://www.uk.emb-japan.go.jp/en/visa/working-holiday.html
Quick google search brought that up. You’ll probably be able to find more stuff if you’re at all familiar with UK government websites.Basically I was in the same boat as you – I was looking at having to get a university degree, but I didn’t want to wait 4 years to actually get there (not to mention the thousands of dollars for an education). Now that I’ve researched the WHV my schedule is massively accelerated to May 2015. You should come with! :P
Hope that helps/inspires! It’s certainly pushed me a lot harder.
P.S. sorry American citizens. You don’t have this option :( it may be a commonwealth thing but I’m not sure.
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I haz a blog http://maninjapanchannel.wordpress.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLQzB-1u-dgThere are downsides to the working holiday visa. Not least of which is you can only get it once in your life, and it only lasts a year. That puts a slight crimp on things if you want to teach for more than a year.
Also, you apparently have to be under thirty, which rules me out. =P
My understanding was that you could do it only once for that country. So after doing a year in Japan you could then go do a year in like… I don’t know… Somewhere else. I could be wrong about that though. I would certainly not be surprised if I were incorrect, and I am happy to be corrected!
Aw, I didn’t realise it was under 30. Canada is under 35.
I haz a blog http://maninjapanchannel.wordpress.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLQzB-1u-dgMy understanding was that you could do it only once for that country.
Yes, but we were talking about working in Japan specifically. =P
Anyway, the Australian equivalent is similar, except I think it’s awarded for six months, with a possible six-month extension.
Well, I’ll just chalk it up to being a clarifying statement ;)
From what I’ve heard, Australia is the only country that can go up to 18 months (at least with Japan) which is pretty rad.
Although ultimately, you are correct. If all you want is to go to Japan, you only get a year there, this is true. However! It is a great way to find out if teaching ESL in Japan is ACTUALLY what you want to do. And if you end up loving it, then there’s really no better motivation for going to uni for a degree.
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