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  • #32487

    goo_ghoul
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    I’m going through the はず practice sheet from Season 5 (here) where one of the example sentences reads:

    この マクドナルド は きれい はず が ない。
    I have no expectation that this McDonalds will be clean.

    I thought it should look like this:
    この マクドナルド は きれいな はず が ない。

    Could somebody clarify which is correct? Thanks.

    #32491

    Anonymous

    きれい isn’t an い adjective, it’s a な adjective. な adjectives only need to have な on it when it comes before the noun it’s describing. Therefore the first sentence is correct.

    *Edit*
    While you can have “きれいなマクドナルド” It implies the Macdonalds is already clean/It is known to be clean. Which takes away the point of using はず as an expectation.

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    #32495

    zeldaskitten
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    きれい is a な adj so according to the rules in TF…:
    “Let’s start with な adjectives first. They’re similar to nouns, with one difference:

    na-adj + な + はずです
    べんりな はずです (expect to be convenient)”

    Seems to me like he made a booboo in the practice sheet. It happens. I usually just submit a bounty and move on. Sometimes they get fixed, sometimes not.

    =^..^=
    #32502

    kanjiman8
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    On the TF な adjectives list, the 4 that end with an い are きれいな, きらいな, ていねいな, ゆうめいな.

    #32526

    Anonymous

    Yeah, there should be a な between きれい and はず. Because きれい(pretty) is a な adjective.

    #32569

    Joel
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    Note that in every example you gave, kanjiman, the い is functioning as a long え – that’s why they’re not い adjectives.

    #32572

    zeldaskitten
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    Joel:
    Note that in every example you gave, kanjiman, the い is functioning as a long え – that’s why they’re not い adjectives.

    not きらい :-)

    =^..^=
    #32585

    Joel
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    Ah, no, this is true. Didn’t see that one there. =P

    きらい is just a stupid exception.

    #32586

    kanjiman8
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    I haven’t reached the lesson on はず yet. I listed the 4 な adjectives that end with an い just as a quick reference. Didn’t mean to confuse anyone if I did :D

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