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Has anyone tried out his methods on his website and if so how long did you do it and did it work for you? alljapaneseallthetime.com
AnonymousOh lawd inb4…
lol am i missing something here
I’ve heard about AJATT and Khatzumoto before. After reading some reviews:
http://v10japan.com/2010/09/17/a-review-of-ajatt/
http://nihongoperapera.com/all-japanese-all-the-time-review.html
http://tabetaiii.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/1-spoon-for-just-a-dollar-ajatt-ss/Your either someone that will love it or hate it. Some people swear by it, others wouldn’t recommend it all. In my opinion, maybe some of his ideas work, but ultimately seems flawed. I have doubts about some of his claims too. For example, it’s pretty hard to create a Japanese immersive environment when your not in Japan. Also, I don’t see how you can learn Japanese by just having “fun”. For me, I want to know why the language is the way it is.
@Kanjiman8 thank you very much for posting those reviews, gave me a little more insight on how people use it. Also thought the 2nd website to be worthy of checking out. The reason why I posted that was the same reason when I asked about Iknow, is that I have a really hard time sticking to something that I can study. I keep jumping around and I just have this constant feeling of the way I study is wrong and I should be doing it more efficiently. I think I need to stick to 1-3 websites/tools and that’s it ::sigh:: lol i think i make it more complicated for myself I don’t know why I over think stuff too much.
@ Scorpion
Your welcome. Personally, I wouldn’t follow any of it, but there maybe some methods of AJATT that are ok. Everyone learns in different ways, so what might not work for one person could be good for someone else. The biggest gripe I have is the way he says you learn it by having “fun” (watching tv shows, listening to music, reading manga etc.). I don’t see how you can pick up a language without studying unless your possibly living in that country and in an immersive environment. Even then, there’s people that have lived in another country and can hardly speak the language. Also, unless your in Japan or living with Japanese people in your own country, you can’t make an immersive Japanese environment 24/7.The method he describes just seems too perfect. It all clicks and makes sense, at least to me.
@kanjiman8 Studying means different things to everybody. Khatz probably studied, he just didn’t call it that. He calls it “getting used (to japanese)”, “sentence mining” and so on. In the end, his FUN immersion environment drowned out anything that might be called studying…
Try it, see if it works. Of course imagine wasting 10,000 of your life only to find out it didn’t work… Also I remember reading that AJATT is about applying his advice to your life/needs. In other words no one will ever experience the same “AJATT method”.
In short, do what feels right. lol
AnonymousAight lemme lay it out for you, it goes like this:
Immersion is the best feature of AJATT. He’s absolutely right about immersion. Surrounding yourself with Japanese helps you ten fold. Through my hours of Japanese TV, music, podcasts, websites and chatting immersion has seriously skyrocketed my Japanese in places you can’t “study”, like reading speed, listening comprehension and pronounciation.
Anything else AJATT preaches I would ignore. His “silver spoon” thing, as Tubatime (ahaha wat a knt) found out is largely the biggest waste of time you could have. Read his terribly written review here: https://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/ajatt-silverspoon/
I probably wouldn’t follow his step by step guide either. Where he says Kanji before kana. I would do Kana, if you want to RTK, then go learn vocabulary.
King of Kings, out.
While I really like his methodology (near-complete immersion) I found it very hard to put into practise. Mainly because it’s very hard for me to be immersed when I have other things going on. It’s relatively easy at home, but I also work. I try my best to have Japanese audio playing at work (and at notable risk to my continued employment) via podcasts and music, but there’s just too many distractions and customers must be spoken to in English (darn customers, WHY YOU NO SPEAK JAPANESE) so the audio is largely tuned out, or switched off altogether if it gets too distracting.
Speaking immersion is also difficult, as I have nobody to speak with outside of the staff at the restaurant I visit (speaking only for a few minutes at a time), which is starting to become very expensive, so I don’t go very often.
But I think immersion would work great for me if I could get it running properly. Case in point, I learned native-level English strictly through immersion and incredibly quickly (granted, I was in an English-speaking country, and much younger). It also worked for Danny Choo, as he managed to surround himself with Japanese speakers. I think it’s a great method, but if you don’t live in Japan, I think you need an environment that allows for that kind of hardcore immersion, which very few people have. Anything less and I can’t see someone making the kind of progress Khatzumoto did.
AnonymousI don’t think his immersion should be taken so literally. It’s not “either 100% immersion or you won’t make gainz” it’s immerse yourself as much as possible, the more you can surround yourself with Japanese the more/faster you’ll progress.
Because there are a few blind spots in your day where you can’t use Japanese doesn’t null the method.
Good point crumb. Immersion in Japanese music, tv shows, movies, etc. will help for the things the books can’t teach and will improve your listening and speaking skills. For explanation of grammar points and why you’re learning something the way it is, studying is essential. A combination of both is the best method.
Armando raises an interesting point too. Tweaking AJATT your own personal way could be more beneficial than Khatz’s way. His posts do have that motivation factor in them too.
You mix AJATT immersion with idols and you have magic (and/or be able to see fairies at 20 then fly at the age of 30).
Also likewise, just because you live in the country of your target language, doesn’t mean you’re going to learn the language. In fact, unless you are actively studying while you are there, the whole process becomes counterproductive. Just study at home while having fun with whatever you are doing. I can’t believe that I went from watching a raw episode of Naruto with my dad one day and just merely guessing at what was going on to getting a very good idea of whats going in most things in a relatively short amount of time. I’ve never been to Japan once but I’m able to do this much, if you don’t like Khatzu’s method, I just say what I said and it becomes a YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN THAT situation. There’s an 8 minute video of Khatzu speaking Japanese nonstop so whether you like it or not, SOMETHING must have worked
In gigabyte’s situation, he’s just mad busy. On the other hand, I just have way too much free time on my hands.
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Tweaking AJATT your own personal way could be more beneficial than Khatz’s way. His posts do have that motivation factor in them too.
I feel like Khatzu puts out this disclaimer everywhere and says that you should just follow your own way but I also feel like many people miss this point. I used to believe AJATT was an all in one solution to learning japanese until I really sat down and planned out my learning strategy
Fair point missing. I haven’t read all of his posts so may have missed him pointing that out. I take it you’ve been studying Japanese for a few years now? What resources are you currently using?
Sadly, I won’t be listening to idols when I do the immersion process. They’re pretty looking but the music isn’t for me :(
I’m curious too as to what resources/study methods everyone uses. I’m trying to tweak mine and see if I can make some improvements.
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