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February 11, 2013 at 1:27 pm #38516
I feel like since I started here I’ve been putting a lot of effort into learning this, but I’ve recently started the 1-2 stroke kanji, along with the reading and vocab for a few of them and I’m having trouble remembering some of it. I started about a week ago. Am I handicapping myself by reading through this quickly? Because it feels like I’m missing out on reviews and consolidation.
February 11, 2013 at 2:16 pm #38518Are you just working on kanji right now? Are you using an SRS?
February 11, 2013 at 7:07 pm #38521SRS?
February 11, 2013 at 8:35 pm #38522Anki is one type of SRS (space repetition system), like the decks that TextFugu has you download and quiz yourself on. Are you using that to study?
February 11, 2013 at 9:17 pm #38523Yes, I’m just worried I’m not getting enough of it.
February 11, 2013 at 9:34 pm #38524What is your retention rate? If you don’t know how to check, you can click on the graph icon on the top right hand corner. One of the graphs will show what your correct % answered is.
For example, mine today was:
91.93% of the “learning” cards and 94.13% of the “young” cards.
That percentage will give you an idea if you’re retaining the information well.
February 12, 2013 at 2:39 am #38525It’s gone down to about 71.5%. It was around 96% at first, I click “Again” if I can’t recall both the reading and meaning, I’m going to change my approach a bit, work on it. Thanks for your help.
February 12, 2013 at 2:40 am #38526That’s for Learning. The Young section is at 98%. Is this just based on how long the cards have been in my deck?
February 12, 2013 at 7:58 am #38528Learning, Young, and Mature designations are how long they’ve been studied. If your Young percentage is around 98%, you’ve got great retention. You can expect Learning to be lower because you’re still trying to put the information into your memory. :)
Out of curiosity, what do you think you will try next instead of recalling both reading and meaning?
February 12, 2013 at 1:22 pm #38539Oh, I just meant changing my schedule around so I’m not trying to learn 10-12 different words at the same time. Slowing down a bit. I saw somewhere that each season is considered to be around a month or so worth of work, and I’ve crammed the first season and a half in in about a week. Granted, I already understood the basics from when I was 6 (differences between katakana, hiragana, kanji. a-i-u-e-o. desu. etc.)
February 12, 2013 at 2:55 pm #38541> Young section is at 98%
Depending on what you are trying to accomplish, a retention rate that high might actually be a bad sign. For example, if you are trying to learn as much as you can, as quickly as you can, then a retention rate of 98% means you are spending too much time reviewing cards you already know. That time could be better spent on new cards, so it would be a good idea to either tweak the interval settings, or hit 4 more, or both.
If you trust simple mathematical models of learning, you can compute an optimal rate that balances the cost of forgetting against the cost of extra reviews. The optimal number turns out to be 70-80% according to the theory, with supermemo recommending 86-94% in practice. They don’t explain why the “in practice” number is different than what the theory indicates, so that’s anyone’s guess.
http://www.supermemo.com/articles/theory.htm
If on the other hand you are trying to learn some specific facts with a high degree of certainty in a limited amount of time, perhaps because you are studying for an exam, then you would ideally want a retention rate of 100% for those facts at the time of the exam. So again, it depends what you are trying to do.
February 12, 2013 at 6:00 pm #38542I didn’t realise when I posted that, it only shows the stats for the deck you have highlighted. I think it was on my hiragana deck at the time. I checked again, it’s at around 75-90 for most of them. Kanji’s at around 70.
February 13, 2013 at 1:34 am #38549You can check the whole collection by clicking the “collection” radio button at the bottom of the statistics (at least in Anki2, dunno about 1)
February 13, 2013 at 3:52 am #38564Ah, thankyou. I was looking for a way to check that earlier. 77.08% learning, 90.38% young
February 19, 2013 at 3:22 am #38639If you want, you could try out wanikani for a while…. I find that it helps me remember kanji/radicals/vocab better because you actually have to type in the answer….
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