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I saw that there was already a similar topic for this (http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/textfugu-vocab/) but I didn’t want to piggyback on that thread. So here we go.
I cannot seem to memorize the TextFugu vocab. At all. I can use the Anki decks for hours, and still have nothing stick. In the linked-to post above, a suggestion was outlined that I should stick the words on a post it on the items around my house. It seems like a great idea in theory, but I am a High School student living with my family, and I don’t think they’d appreciate post-it notes all over the place.
So I guess my question is, what is the best way to go about learning the vocab?
Thanks.
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Just a High School nerd that's trying to learn Japanese for fun and profit. Check out my online Anime and Otaku retail store at TotalOtaku.comFor all new kanjis and vocabs I use a memorization technique. It takes a little time to get the new stuff to memorise under my skin but I remember the far most, and it takes much less time to learn them than with traditional memorization. It’s the same technique used by the masters in memorization competitions.
It is explained in a book by the awesome Norwegian dude Oddbjørn By. The book is called “Memo-the Easiest Way to Improve Your Memory”. It explains everything you need to know about memorization.
He have written two other books about the subject (which I’ve read) but I don’t think they are translated to English. “Memo-the Easiest Way to Improve Your Memory” is the best and most updated one btw.
I could explain it to you but it’ll take long time for me to write and it’s the authors livelihood.You can find out more about it here
http://www.oby.no/frontpage/?lang=enWhen you say you spend a lot of time on Anki, is that a lot of time *each day*? Only do the number of cards it tells you to do each day, and let the SRS algorithm work its magic. Sometimes it takes a good number of failed flash card reviews before a word just “sticks”.
I’m not sure how effective the post-it technique is anyway. It can only work for a limited number of words, mostly nouns and adjectives – what would you stick a post-it to for おどろく(to be surprised) or ときどき(sometimes)? :P
Personally, these days I find the best way to remember words is to see them while I’m reading something. Seeing a word out in the wild really helps it become lodged in your brain. I kinda regret having done quite so many flash card reps in the few years I’ve been learning Japanese, wish I’d tried reading more instead. The thing is, it’s not quite as easy when you’re still a beginner and you suck at reading (I still do, but I’m better than I used to be). For the mean time, I guess stick with Anki, but as you get better at Japanese, try reading more.
Both of you, thanks for the replies! (I would have replied sooner, but things came up)
They’re both helpful suggestions.@MisterM2402, Yeah, I try to make it daily. I emphasize “try” because as much as I want to do TextFugu/Anki daily, I have my actual High School courses’ homework and studying that take me >5 hours nightly, so I do TextFugu less often than I wish to.
As for your comment on the ‘post-it technique’, you’re right; it would not work on some things such as non-nouns and the like.
Reading-wise, like you suggested, is a very helpful trick; I do use that technique a lot. However, what I find to happen is getting to one of the TextFugu pages where Koichi says, “Make sure you know these before moving on.” or so and I do the Anki for a long time, and even though Anki reports that I have the words down, I don’t feel all to sure.Overall, I think that I just must keep drilling and cramming as much as possible. Thanks for the replies, and if anyone has anything to comment feel free to do so.
Thanks.
Just a High School nerd that's trying to learn Japanese for fun and profit. Check out my online Anime and Otaku retail store at TotalOtaku.comMy point wasn’t that you should study every day (although that is good advice that you should definitely try to follow), it was that you shouldn’t do too many reviews on Anki. By that I mean, once you’ve done the reviews it tells you to do that day, don’t keep going, wait until the next day instead. The SRS only works if you leave a certain amount of time in between reviews. You said that you spend a lot of time on Anki – it made me think you were reviewing cards over and over again in the same sitting, but that’s not the way to do it.
Also, you spend >5 hours per night on homework and studying? How much do your teachers give you!? When I was at high school, I didn’t spend even close to that kind of time doing homework, that’s a ridiculous amount you have XD
Yeah, I always do just what Anki tells me to do. I never have done a “custom study” (or whatever it’s called) because I was afraid of screwing something up like that (plus…I couldn’t figure out how to do so…). So, when I progress in TextFugu, I study the new pack every time I’m told, and then after I finish TextFugu for the day, I do my Anki review. Is that not the correct way to do so?
[As for the homework, yeah. It's really stressful...and I also run an online business on top of that. The 2013-2014 school year was my first at this High School and there's so much more work here than at my last school. I'd like to say I've gotten used to it...but I haven't. Well, I can do much more TextFugu/Wanikani over summer vacation.]
Just a High School nerd that's trying to learn Japanese for fun and profit. Check out my online Anime and Otaku retail store at TotalOtaku.comYeah, that’s fine :)
That’s cool that you’re running a business while you’re still in high school. One thing though, the logo says 合計 オタク – I’m not sure 合計 is the word you want there. To be fair, I’m not sure what word *would* be more appropriate, but 合計 is “total” in the sense of “the total sum of some numbers”, as far as I’m aware. Plus “otaku” is kind of a derogatory term, in Japan at least. I doubt your customers will care about either of those things though :P
To be fair, I’m not sure what word *would* be more appropriate
完全? 全部? 一式? Or just plain old トータル? =)
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@JoelYeah, I’m aware of both of those things. I really didn’t want to use the Katakana transcription of “total” (トータル）and yeah, I’m aware of that being that form of the translation of “total”.
As for the “Otaku” thing…yeah I know haha. I figured that even though in Japan (and to the more informed individuals, such as us) there’s that negative connotation, to most people that use it, they don’t really get that. Plus it’s a recognizable word to the target audience, nonetheless.Just a High School nerd that's trying to learn Japanese for fun and profit. Check out my online Anime and Otaku retail store at TotalOtaku.comI’m not sure how effective the post-it technique is anyway. It can only work for a limited number of words, mostly nouns and adjectives – what would you stick a post-it to for おどろく(to be surprised) or ときどき(sometimes)? :P
The post-it thing is great for nouns. If you live by yourself. Probably not with other people, so fair enough.
HOWEVER.
Do not underestimate my willingness to stick things onto other things.
Verbs?
Easy.
XKCD or Cyanide & Happiness comics. Pick some things that have verbs that are in your list. I’ll use ねます which is insanely easy but hey, here it is:
It’s hilarious, so the word sticks. I have 16 or so of these guys just for verbs.
Then again, I live by myself, and I like putting things on walls. And it’s just something that happens to work for me. With time, I will find a way to demonstrate abstract concepts using sticky notes. Just you wait.
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