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  • #29931

    hey
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    I’ve found that I’m in need of learning Japanese numbers more and more. Can anyone recommend a good resource for Japanese numbers?

    For example, I’ve noticed はっぴゃく is 800, and not はちひゃく like I would expect.

    I’m hoping to find a Droid app, website, or anything that can clarify numbers, and help me practice them.

    Any information or thoughts would be incredibly helpful!

    #29936

    Tom Jensen
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    There’s a whole section in chapter 2 dedicated to numbers, just finished with it. Though if you’re not past that point yet I would recommend doing all the previous chapters beforehand. Cheers!

    #29942

    hey
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    That’s awesome news! I peeked ahead, and I’m almost there, however, I still would love to have additional resources to help me practice numbers if anyone has any suggestions.

    I’ve found a few Droid apps, but the ones I’ve been using have been less than accurate, or extremely limited.

    #29945

    Tom Jensen
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    Try making an Anki deck, maybe not exactly what you’re looking for, but probably will help in the long run. Anki has a phone app too (not sure if it’s for the droid, and a bit pricey ($25), but it looks really solid).

    Edit: Just wanted to add one thing i just found out. It turns out there is a free and open source version of Anki on droid called AnkiDroid (I know Who’da Thunk). Seriously worth checking out.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 6 months ago by  Tom Jensen.
    #29947

    Hatt0ri
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    Actually, Wikipedia has a nice page on numbers and counters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_counter_word. Look at the table in “Euphonic changes” section. If you are interested in changes that occur when number comes before ぴゃく, just look at the h- column – changes are いっぴゃく,さんびゃく etc.

    #29950

    Quufer
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    Koichi also has his own guide, which is pretty good: http://www.tofugu.com/guides/japanese-counters-guide/

    #29954

    hey
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    Great thanks! I’ll check all of those out.

    I do have AnkiDroid, and it’s my primary source for using Anki. I use it on the elevator, walking down the hall, etc. It’s not perfect, but it does a good job.

    I will give one warning to anyone who is looking to use it. The radicals fins and volcano look the same, and that messes me up pretty bad. Also, it doesn’t seem to have audio.

    Other than that it’s a great tool.

    #29958

    kanjiman8
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    That Tofugu counters guide is really helpful. Well worth checking out.

    @ hey
    The issue with the volcano radical is to do with the font. Check out this link for more info http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/volcano-radical-incorrect-in-anki/

    If you look closely, you can see a slight difference between the two radicals when the volcano one hasn’t got it’s head on.

    #29960

    hey
    Member

    Ah, thanks, I’ve read through that posting now. I at least understand what is wrong, but I’m still not sure how I should handle that case.

    I’ve noticed there are several radicals that look similar, based on the radicals on jisho.org, and I’ve been wondering how best to handle those cases.

    For example:

    口 and 囗

    look the same on my monitor right now, and only slightly different on jisho.org. According to jisho one is mouth, and the other is box.

    Any insight you may have on working with these would be greatly appreciated.

    #29961

    クリス
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    @hey >>Also, it doesn’t seem to have audio.

    You just need to hook up your device to your PC and drag the sound files into the corresponding .media folders.

    There’s a way to do it over Dropbox as well, but I never got that to work properly.

    #29966

    kanjiman8
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    @ chris
    Nice tip. I have an android phone and am thinking of downloading Ankidroid. I’ll be sure to do that once I’ve downloaded it.

    @ hey
    That’s the one pain with having so many different types of fonts. Sticking to one on Anki that doesn’t confuse you with certain radicals might be a good idea.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 6 months ago by  kanjiman8.
    #29985

    Joel
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    Hah. Don’t forget to include the katakana ロ on that list. =)

    In real life language, you’re going to find that context makes all the difference. 口 will appear with other kanji, ロ will appear with other katakana. 囗 won’t ever appear on its own at all – it’s basically always a radical, like in 国 or 回.

    #29987

    hey
    Member

    クリス – I didn’t know I could do that thanks!

    Kanjiman8 – I’ll have to try, and see if that can be done with Ankidroid. I haven’t noticed any font options, but I didn’t think to look for them either.

    Joel – I see what you’re saying. I guess I was hopeful there would be a trick that wasn’t obvious, but if it’s about context, then it sounds like it will just come with experience.

    Thanks all!

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