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    Arthur Siu
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    I’m curious whether anyone else has any experience with Heisigs’s Remember the Kanji.

    I’m about week and a half into to it and 1100 characters through. Putting myself through hell to learn a 100 kanji a day, using a premade Anki deck to test myself. =( I find it effective for writing and recognizing,but speaking is completely useless. But I just plan to learn vocab using Japan core 2000 and 6000 when I finish TextFugu
    I’m was about to start on Season 5, but the not being able to recognize the kanji vocab I was given was a big hinderance. And RTK does not work with WaniKani/Textfugu, since radicals are names slightly differently. Plus the my problem with WaniKani is that I can’ study a lot in one go. But since RTK does a systematic approach, you don’t learn some of the words we encounter here early on, very late in RTK.
    I do speak Chinese, though unable to write and recognize enough characters( originally 200) but that’s changing every day. yay! Great side effect. I will say that for me, being able to read through a Chinese newspaper or whatever is, of course, helping me remember those characters very vividly, and it’s a piece of cake to recognize characters that I’ve learned.

    But what were the methods you guys used to learn Japanese kanji and vocab? I’m most curious because TextFugu doesn’t give you enough vocab, and I personally don’t really like wanikani for a few personal reasons.

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    thisiskyle
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    I agree with you on just about everything you say.

    I went through RTK a long time ago and am actually going through it again now after a long period of on-and-off (mostly off) studying.

    I recommend RTK a lot. Being able to recognize kanji in vocab and associate them to some meaning is very helpful. I never did the core vocab series; I found it way too boring. There is a good site called Reading the Kanji which is a pretty good SRSish online tool for learning kanji readings and vocabulary. It does cost money for post LTPT-N5 vocab, but you can try it out for free and see if you like it.

    The downside to RTK as it is, is that it is based on recognizing the English keyword. What I would actually like to do is to go through and add to each card an “exemplar” field for each card that would contain a Japanese word that contains that kanji and represents the main meaning of that kanji. Then, I would want to study [exemplar -> kanji] as opposed to [keyword -> kanji]. I think such a deck would prove more usefull for long term study. For example:

    Front: (やく)目
    Back: 役

    Also, I’m not sure if there is an add-on of Anki that already does this, but I’m trying to write one as an exercise in learning to code. I’d like to write an add-on that allows you to have multiple values for a specific field and when the card comes up for review, it would show you one (possibly randomly) of the values of that field. The would be good for cards like I mentioned above since you could have 役目、役場、or 大役 come up for the 役 card. It would also solve, to some degree, the problem I’ve always had with sentence decks since you could have multiple example sentences for a given vocabulary word.

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    Arthur Siu
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    Thanks for your experience. Guess I’ll check out the reading the kanji website. I’m curious how long did it take you to read japanese novels, manga, etc.?

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