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  • #13840

    BBB
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    My goals will hopefully become more complex (reason #4 should fuel that). However, for the sake of the lesson, so far I have written:

    1 Play classic games in Japanese.
    2 Read untranslated technical books.
    3 Literate & promote free thought.
    4 Interact and/or collaborate on 2ch.

    It is now taped to my desk.

    I used to study Japanese, even formally a decade ago. I am studying again, but with greater passion and tools.

    #13844

    Kaona
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    Welcome to TextFugu!

    Good luck learning Japanese.

    #13850

    SinisterT
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    Welcome,
    Good luck, have fun, and be safe.

    #13854

    JiN
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    Welcome glad to have you :D

    #14256

    BBB
    Member

    Kaona: Thank you. Especially if you are a fine female as your drawn profile picture hopefully implies.
    SinisterT: I will have your luck, my fun and the safety too. I take pride in my greed.
    JiN: That is fantastic.

    #14257

    Mars
    Member

    Hahaha. Yes, Kaona, you are a fine female, aren’t you? Looool.

    You’re gonna have to wait a few years for Kaona, BBB. Lmao. At least in my country. XD

    I’m just kidding around. Have fun and enjoy your studies. I’ve seen some hilarious stuff on 2ch. There was this thing where they’d just post a picture of a boat and go “Nice boat” like a long time ago. I don’t know why, but it made me laugh so hard, every time.

    #14282

    Hashi
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    Literate and promote free thought? Admirable goal. Welcome to TextFugu, and good luck learning Japanese!

    #14311

    Kaona
    Member

    -throws a brick at Mars-

    It wasn’t me!

    #14314

    Mars
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    #32473

    BBB
    Member

    Reporting almost one year later:
    I am still studying at a snail’s pace. Anki at least helps me secure the words that I know when I am not actively reading further into it. I have a tad bit more time in the summer that I plan to wedge some more study time in. I also made a native japanese friend. We played Dragon Quest together for the Famicom and he helped me figure out what was going on.

    For the record, since starting on the kanji, I do think I couldn’t possibly disagree more with the following statements unless this were sarcasm, Koichi:
    (Under the page for 才)
    “You have a cross. Why is there a slide / stroke going through the cross? Why, because religion
    really was a ‘stroke of genius.’
    When you think about crosses and religion, it’s hard to help but think of how it’s changed and affected history. So genius.”

    Obviously a remark about Christianity, which bears the cross of their savoir as their symbol. I find my opinion remarkably opposing this, as I find Christianity to be the mark of ignorance, gullibility and thoughtless subservience. I would have probably left with no remark if it wasn’t stating something as ridiculous as basically ‘you should remember the kanji meaning genius by remembering how genius religion is’. That only makes it harder to remember, quite honestly. It goes against everything I’ve come to know, which is going against mnemonics.

    #32475

    Patrick
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    BBB:

    For the record, since starting on the kanji, I do think I couldn’t possibly disagree more with the following statements unless this were sarcasm, Koichi:
    (Under the page for 才)
    “You have a cross. Why is there a slide / stroke going through the cross? Why, because religion
    really was a ‘stroke of genius.’
    When you think about crosses and religion, it’s hard to help but think of how it’s changed and affected history. So genius.”

    Obviously a remark about Christianity, which bears the cross of their savoir as their symbol. I find my opinion remarkably opposing this, as I find Christianity to be the mark of ignorance, gullibility and thoughtless subservience. I would have probably left with no remark if it wasn’t stating something as ridiculous as basically ‘you should remember the kanji meaning genius by remembering how genius religion is’. That only makes it harder to remember, quite honestly. It goes against everything I’ve come to know, which is going against mnemonics.

    Note: Before I begin, I would like to say that I hope I do not offend anyone with my statements; I am not disrespecting anyone’s beliefs or values.

    I am not a “religious” person, but I think it is easy to consider religion “genius.” For example, even if one considers religion a completely man-made creation without any truth to the supernatural elements, such elements cannot be disproved by scientific methods (at least, when it comes to the question of the existence of a supreme being). Although recent discoveries have suggested that there was no need for divine intervention for the universe to be created, that does not prove there wasn’t, and we lack the experimental and analytic abilities to do so. Now, regardless of how one feels towards any religion’s doctrine or adherents, that is pretty genius. I would call an argument that cannot be disproved and explicitly requires and promotes faith as a major tenet (in response to the lack of undeniable proof) “genius.” Any complaints against a religion can really be dismissed based off those two qualities, and, if one considers them entirely human creations, than that is a really impressive creation. Also, the point that religion has had such a huge impact on human history is completely valid. Since genius does not imply “correct,” “moral,” or “right,” I think it works quite well.

    Like I said, I don’t mean to “debate” religion here (open online debates on religion or politics are rarely smart ideas), but I hope this has perhaps helped in seeing how religion could be considered genius regardless of one’s beliefs and feelings towards it.

    (I also wrote that with Christianity mainly in mind, but I am aware that there are many religions to which my points might not fit as well. I am sure there can be considered genius in their own right, in some way or another.)

    Good luck with your studies!

    #32488

    BBB
    Member

    I have yet to read all of your post Patrick and will update if I don’t address anything.

    Honestly, I regret saying it now, even if it’s the truth. I kind of just wanted to do an update, but I might offend someone with this or they might identify it as some kind of hate speech when it was just my being too open. If you are Christian, I mean no disrespect for you or the wonderful things your supposed Christ has done. The things we can agree that are wonderful.

    How I feel, even if it’s genuine has no relevance to learning Japanese. I wish you the best in those efforts no matter your faith. Unless you’re a missionary going to Japan to teach ‘the good word’, because you’re half the reason I’m here.

    #32489

    BBB
    Member

    I see you are posting your own position, but I cannot agree with you. I propose we take it some other discussion. Perhaps a philosophy thread should be created?

    Since I get so riled up about it (obviously), gives me an opportunity to practice the kind of tolerance that would be acceptable socially in Japan.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 4 months ago by  BBB.
    #32521

    Patrick
    Member

    I think a philosophy thread could be very enlightening, and I expect we would be able to keep it very civil and respectful. Philosophical/religious discussions are wonderfully invigorating; debates are silly and pointless.

    And I suppose the reasoning for my position towards whether the word fits comes from my deep love for science. The scientific method is an incredibly powerful tool, and I am in awe of anything (especially anything which is the product of human efforts and thought) that eludes its capabilities. Anyways, perhaps another thread would be better for this discussion.

    #32523

    Luke
    Member

    Well think of it this way, what’s a genius way to scam people out of money?

    Scientology.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 4 months ago by  Luke.
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