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I’m currently on Season 5. I can go through kanji like nobody’s business. After I finish my kanji anki decks, or do the new WaniKani stuff, I feel like a Kanji master. I can remember all those meaning and readings. Makes me want to go HUGGHHH!!!!! (I don’t know what that means)
But then I get to Kanji Vocab. I get stuck often, and it takes me a long time to get through it. Sometimes even for non-kanji vocab as well. Any tips on how to approach this stuff besides raw memorization? The stories for kanji learning help a lot, I wish there would be some for the vocab. I know it would take a long time, but it would help a lot. Of course I can make up my own, but that can be difficult at times.
I feel like a Kanji master when I’m done studying kanji, but then I feel like a beginner when I’m so slow at the vocab. And really, knowing kanji doesn’t seem too helpful at all in the long run, vocab seems to be what would matter.
Anyone else feel the same way or have any tips?
AnonymousAren’t there mnemonics for the vocab as well? But if not, maybe creating your own stories inside your head that relate to the kanji’s story may help. That’s what I do all the time.
Currently there’s only mnemonics for kanji and possibly for some kanji vocab if I remember correctly. The following is from info about the upcoming TF update: “Mnemonics for (almost) all vocab, even ones that aren’t from kanji you’ve learned.”
So it looks like we may get mnemonics for non kanji vocab too. My own mnenomics pretty much helped me learn the 50+ verbs in Season 3. Without them It would of taken longer to remember them through raw memorization.
Kanji vocab is easier once you know the kanji quite well individually. That’s kinda why I went through RTK. (Remembering the Kanji)
What’s happening with WaniKani? Is that available?
Agree about doing your own mnemonics.
Sometimes I’ll change the story in TF’s mnemonic (e.g. in Fat, in Now) to one that’s more obvious to me.-
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vanandrew.
What’s happening with WaniKani? Is that available?
It’s in a closed alpha for people who bought the 30 Days ebook, and in a while (month or so?) should move to a closed beta for people who signed up for it.
I could sign up for the closed alpha and the closed beta but I prefer to wait for the finished product. Hope we get to see the finished Wani Kani by the end of the year.
Thinking of your own mnemonics is extremely useful. I heard this works for RTK too. Some of Heisig’s ones are a bit wild.
I don’t think you should wait for Wani Kani when there’s stuff like Read the Kanji (.com) out there, I don’t know how good Wani will be, but unless it’s coming out real soon then I would check out the site I just mentioned instead.
…or just do Heisig’s book, I did that instead of the above website because it started to get much harder when it kept giving me words with 2 or more kanji I didn’t know all the time. After though the website is very good.
Same thing with iKnow, it’s a lot easier to take in all that kanji when you know most of them individually.
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Luke.
Hmm you bring up some good points Yggbert. I’ll keep both Read the Kanji website and RTK vol. 1 in mind.
Yeah, I have WaniKani, and it’s nothing new to Textfugu users. It’s basically just a web-based Kanji SRS system. So if you’ve been keeping up with your Anki TF Kanji decks, it’s the same thing, more or less. Main difference is that it also has the TF kanji pages built-in. So you can also learn new Kanji through it as you would in the TF kanji section.
It’s cool, but nothing groundbreaking if you’ve already been doing the TF thing for awhile. Once it gets a little more fleshed out with vocab and more content though, it won’t make sense to use Anki anymore for your Kanji studies. WaniKani will do the same job but better.
That sounds more appealing than using Anki. I don’t mind Anki but it seems more convenient to have everything stores on Wani Kani.
I love the flexibility of Anki phone,tablet,laptop,any internet, and the ability to rank your self honestly, but I am one of those people who find shiny charts and unlock-able levels motivating. So yes It may seem childish but I enjoy the flashy all in one suite that I believe wanikani may become. And knowing you have to review so many times to move on keeps you current were anki can be crammed with decks when mo progress is made… just my 2 cents
I started with Textfugu a couple of months ago (already knowing the kana and a bit more), went through the first seasons and enjoyed it. But then I felt a bit lost without knowing many kanji as I wanted to read some texts, subtitling on tv shows etc. Therefore I decided to pick up RTK (bought the book and downloaded the Anki deck for my Android), which turned out to be a really good idea. I am already 30% through the kanjis, and all the other learning already goes so much smoother because of the kanji knowledge.
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