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May 3, 2012 at 7:49 pm #30286
what the heck? i dont see any sales figures or anything. anyways, if sasshi doesn’t win im gonna flip a shit. TGS and Momoclo are gonna be in the Yubi Matsuri so shes gotta win
May 3, 2012 at 8:02 pm #30287http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3uFIw71u0 thats for you btw
May 4, 2012 at 12:19 am #30293Here is the actual ranking http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2012-05-02/more/1/
She has the lead with quite a lot ^^May 4, 2012 at 7:46 am #30313Okay, so 「AKB48 27ndシングル選抜総選挙」 is soon here. I have been digging some info, because I wanted to make my preorder. To spare others time(and so I don’t forget it), here is the info(taken from multiple sources):
CD/DVD Details:
⑤ versions
Type A Regular
Type B Regular
Type A Limited (w/ Handshaking Event Ticket)
Type B Limited (w/ Handshaking Event Ticket)
TheaterAKB48のニュー・シングル!! DVDには、Music Clipを収録予定。(Type-AとType-BでCD・DVD共に3曲目が異なります。) 「AKB48 27thシングル 選抜総選挙」投票用シリアルナンバーカード期間限定封入(※2012年6月5日出荷分迄の封入)。通常盤は、生写真1種ランダム封入(全36種)。ホログラムBOX仕様。
- Type A:
【CD】
1.真夏のSounds good !
2.3つの涙
3.ちょうだい、ダーリン!
4.真夏のSounds good ! off vocal ver.
5.3つの涙 off vocal ver.
6.ちょうだい、ダーリン! off vocal ver.
【DVD】
1.真夏のSounds good ! Music Video
2.真夏のSounds good ! Music Video-Dance ver.-
3.3つの涙 Music Video
4.ちょうだい、ダーリン! Music Video
5.AKB 48 27thシングル 選抜総選挙 出馬メンバー プロフィール映像<Type-A>- Type B:
【CD】
1.真夏のSounds good !
2.3つの涙
3.ぐぐたすの空
4.真夏のSounds good ! off vocal ver.
5.3つの涙 off vocal ver.
6.ぐぐたすの空 off vocal ver.
【DVD】
1.真夏のSounds good ! Music Video
2.真夏のSounds good ! Music Video-Dance ver.-
3.3つの涙 Music Video
4.ぐぐたすの空 Music Video
5.AKB48 27thシングル 選抜総選挙 出馬メンバー プロフィール映像<Type-B>- Theater:
【DISC1 マキシシングル】
1.真夏のSounds good !
2.3つの涙
3.君のために僕は…
4.真夏のSounds good ! off vocal ver.
5.3つの涙 off vocal ver.
6.君のために僕は… off vocal ver.Other than this, all different types of the singles have different covers, you should be able to find them easily.
Members participating in the singles which set version a & b apart
「ちょうだい、ダーリン!」
Team A : 指原莉乃、篠田麻里子、高橋みなみ、前田敦子
Team K: 板野友美、大島優子
Team B: 柏木由紀、渡辺麻友
Team 4: 加藤玲奈、島崎遥香「ぐぐたすの空」
Team A: 片山陽加、倉持明日香、高城亜樹、仲川遥香
Team K: 田名部生来、藤江れいな、松井咲子、横山由依
Team B: 石田晴香、北原里英、鈴木紫帆里
Team 4: 仲俣汐里
SKE48 Team S: 松井玲奈
SKE48 Research Student: 松村香織
NMB48 Team N: 山口夕輝、山本 彩「AKB48 27ndシングル選抜総選挙」 date
選抜総選挙 5月22日10時00分(JST) – 6月5日14時59分(JST)
Release date of the single
「真夏のSounds good」シングル: 5月23日から発売予定
This leaves only 8 “working” days to get the single delivered in time, if you want to vote.
May 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm #30320Thanks maaaaarkkkkkk
May 6, 2012 at 8:58 pm #30383I don’t care much for idols (in the music sense) but if you give me the name of the girl standing in the very middle at 0:27, you will have changed my mind. http://goo.gl/itm6X (Saying “the one in the white” would be the worst description, so I’ll stick with “one piece”)
If you wish to consider this an AKB test then please do so. :P
May 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm #30384Hmmm, depends on what you mean by the middle. Do you mean 2 people in the middle in the front row or the row behind that with the girl straight in the middle?
Anyways, the 2 people in the front row are:
(Left) Watanabe Maya aka Mayuyu (AKB48)
http://www.akb48.co.jp/about/members/detail.php?name=watanabe_mayu(Right) Matsui Jurina aka…….Jurina (SKE48)
http://www.ske48.co.jp/profile/?id=matsui_jurinaSmack dab in the middle in the second row:
Haruka Kodama aka Haruppi (HKT48)
http://www.hkt48.jp/profile/member07.html↓
http://tvcap.dip.jp/2012/4/27/120427-1752400687.jpgI actually didn’t know who she was and this took me a good 25-30 minutes maybe of finding out who she was after exhaustive comparisons. It’s because I don’t know anyone from HKT48 (and also JKT48 but thats because I don’t care about them).
Fukc, I should have just been like, the girl you are looking for is Iriyama Anna
Everyone else I know though.
May 6, 2012 at 10:11 pm #30385Haha, I’m surprised you went through such effort, you are awesome. Though Jurina and Haruppi look the same to me either way. Yeah, you could have easily just said some random person or said “I don’t know”. Still awesome. But by your results it would have to be Haruppi.
May 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm #30386If it gets you to the
darkside of idols, then sureAlso the choosing of an oshimen is a delicate process.
Q: What is an oshimen?
A: Oshimen is a term that is derived from a combination of two terms. First “oshi” (推し) which means to give your support and second a short form of the English word “member”. Hence when someone refers to their oshimen (推しメン), it would be the member that they would give their fullest support.
May 7, 2012 at 4:00 am #30395That was some pretty pro searching Missing! I probably couldn’t have figured out :s
By the way, that was an interesting choice Raven. Here is a gift to you:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5223862/mmanatsu.jpgAlso, I loved the picture Missing, one does indeed not simply choose an oshimen…
May 7, 2012 at 7:45 am #30397May 7, 2012 at 9:38 am #30408DAT PARURU
May 8, 2012 at 12:22 pm #30448https://plus.google.com/u/0/109544372058574620997/posts/JXk8qnfyQkY
I’d say right hand is さや姉, and left is みるきぃ
May 11, 2012 at 6:00 am #30564I know very little about Japanese Idols. However, when I first heard of AKB48 I became very fascinated by the concept. I guess I viewed it from a sociological perspective, and I’ve casually paid attention to them ever since. If my understanding of the concept is correct then I see them as “everyday stars”. That is famous people that the average joe can have a chance to interact with, and experience in person more than your standard American concept of a star. It seems like something that could only work in Japan, or at least work this well in Japan. That would be both for several reasons, both cultural and geographical. I might be off on all of that, but it’s the impression I’ve had so far.
Anyway, when I was in Akiba last year I saw signs and things for AKB48, but I didn’t know what that meant, so I moved on. After I got back, I found out they were a big Idol group, and that there was such a thing as Idols. (Ha, I know.) Anyway, if I remember what I saw correctly, then AKB48 puts on concerts daily in Akiba? And for some reason I get the impression it’s at Don Quixote?
How accurate does all of this sound? Am I way off base, am I accidentally making things up?
May 11, 2012 at 10:11 am #30573I think idols would work in any country. I can’t see any specific things that would make Japanese more prone to follow idols. You argue that it can only be done in Japan, because of the culture, but I can’t see how that works out? What points of Japanese culture would make you more prone to follow idols? It is just a concept which is unique to Japan, but if you look at China you will see how much they love Japanese idols. Same goes for Korea, which also have loads of idols. Let alone all the foreign fans who like idols despite having to work through a language barrier.
“Idols you can meet” is indeed what makes idols unique, but there are also a few other aspect which I feel is critical to include in why idols are popular. Idols are somewhat normal people. You can meet them, they don’t live in huge houses isolated from everyone, and they love their fans because the fans determine their future. Another thing is that you are able to follow their development, and fans are able to determine who will become big, and who will stay forgotten. This is because of things like the senbatsu, where fans vote for the idol which they want to see in the media. Idols who don’t get ranked high pretty much get forgotten, so fans can directly influence the development of the individuals within the group. As mentioned earlier, you can follow an idol’s development. They are not the best at anything really, so you will be able to see how they develop and become better, let alone see how they grow from being a 研究生 to becoming a 20y old idol graduating.
Because of what is mentioned, most people will choose an 推しメン, a member they support, which they will vote for, and they will support fully(buy goods, watch they programs etc), to ensure that they will get highly ranked in the next senbatsu, and to make sure that their beloved idol does good. To some it almost becomes a child.
So yes, I think you are indeed wrong in your observationsI could write a lot more on this, but I will stop here, because this is not the purpose of this thread(and because I was in the middle of writing a journal). Please, if there are further questions about Idols, ask them in a separate thread, because this is a thread for talking about idols, not discussing what they are(as mentioned on page 1)
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