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  • #30930

    Only speculations, but it seems like the live@TDC will be late august.
    http://i.imgur.com/NG7cQ.jpg
    (thanks H!O forums ^^)

    And if you haven’t already seen it 秋元康 posted on google+ that acchan will graduate during the concert and the theater concert the day after.

    #30940

    hey
    Member

    I’ve been curious. Earlier you said if they made a NYC48 that you’d boycott that. This led me to think of the several ways this sort of thing could be handled. Mind you I know very little about idols, but I wonder if you’d boycott it if it were setup in the following different ways:

    1) Ambassadors: In this scenario the members of NYC48 would be all Japanese idols who set up shop in NYC. Some of them could be idols from existing groups who join NYC48 to help it get started, and for the experience, while others are new idols. They still would maintain a presence in Japanese media, but also take a more active role in American media. Both countries could vote for them.

    2) Mentors: In this scenario the members are NYC48 would be all Americans, but real Japanese idols would be their mentors and coaches. The end result would be more American, but the core concepts of the Japanese idol phenomenon would be maintained.

    Anyway, I guess my thought is they wouldn’t have to be all Americans americaning it up. ;)

    What do you think?

    #30941

    missingno15
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    The Japanese perception of idols in the West is too cynical. It just simply would not work because a vast majority of Westerners do not share the same values as the Japanese people when it comes to idol groups with exception of Western fans. For the sake of the girls that are going to potentially be in the group and AKB’s reputation, I would definitely not allow any group to exist in what we refer to as “the West”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSzG-Dz4Y0

    If you take a look at this CNN review with Akimoto Yasushi, the producer of AKB, that CNN interviewer basically seems like she questions that look down upon AKB. Its entirely in Japanese but there are questions like “You have created songs about prostitution and suicide. Isn’t this a bad image for girls everywhere?” which I hope makes him reconsider his decision because Westerners can not look beyond the surface and point out the bad things first before they can even look at any good points which we call “criticism” but theres a point where it divides into “constructive criticism” and “criticism” just because it looks like another WTF Japan topic.

    Back to the actual topic, the idols themselves do not have to be Japanese. This is the case in JKT48 where all the members are Indonesian (JKT = Jakarta,Indonesia). So in NYC, or just USA in general, it would be difficult to ascertain who gets in because the US is a huge melting spot so to speak. In the case of Japanese media coverage, JKT gets little to no coverage because its just not in Japan.

    Either way, what I just really want to say is that idea of Japanese idols or anything like it existing in places other than Asia or Japan is impossible.

    #30942

    hey
    Member

    @missingno15 – If I understand you correctly, then it sounds like you not a fan of the idea because idols, and the concept of idols, don’t get respect in the US, or outside of Asia in general. Would you say that’s correct?

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    #30987

    missingno15
    Member

    Pretty much.

    #30993

    hey
    Member

    I can’t blame you there. I feel the same way when my hobbies or interests are painted in a negative light. I have to admit when I first started talking with you about idols I expected to see or hear about a darker side to it, but it sounds like it’s generally a positive thing for the fans and the idols. There aren’t enough communities that are based on that kind of positivity.

    #30996

    missingno15
    Member

    everyone else is basically like

    http://rambly-ramblings.2308065.n4.nabble.com/file/n4216298/StopLikingWhatIDontLike_9969.jpg

    Yup, well I guess there are some negative things about idols but I like the positive things about it which I find there is a lot of

    #30999

    hey
    Member

    Haha, that pic is hilarious!

    #31027

    My package is sent, and now in transit :D :D should arrive Wednesday!

    #31116

    missingno15
    Member

    AKB48 Preliminary Results

    http://journal.aif48.org/?p=15106

    Though its still anyone’s guess, still subject to massive jumps

    #31275

    missingno15
    Member

    Flawlessly voted for my members

    Need a video on how to vote for your oshimen?

    Take a look at my video right here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=degd-10cF4s

    #31279

    One mistake, you could choose the very bottom option, which was “none of the above”, so you don’t have to choose a prefecture. ^^

    #31417

    Less than 24h for senbatsu! excited :3 Yuihan #1 please xD
    Nah, I am fine with whoever ranks highest, pretty much all members deserve it for the hard work they have done. I just hope Yui won’t get tangled up somewhere in the middle of the 13th-18th place fight. There were so few votes setting the members apart in these ranks, that everything can happen. To be honest, this is probably what will be most exciting to watch for me :3

    12th Yui Yokoyama 4,301票

    13th Aki Takajo 3,661票
    14th Ayaka Umeda 3,484票
    15th Minami Minegishi 3,396票
    16th Rie Kitarie 3,302票
    17th Tomomi Kasai 3,227票
    18th Sayaka Yamamoto 3,218票

    19th Miyuki Watanabe 2,976票

    #31419
    #31457

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    2位 渡辺麻友(B)72574
    3位 柏木由紀 (B)71076
    4位 指原莉乃(A) 67339
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    14位 峯岸みなみ(K) 26038
    15位 横山由依(K) 25541
    16位 梅田彩佳(K) 24522

    17位 高城亜樹(A) 23083
    18位 山本彩(N) 23020
    19位 渡辺美優紀(N) 19159
    20位 秋元才加(K) 19121
    21位 佐藤亜美菜(B) 17009
    22位 倉持明日香(A) 14852
    23位 島崎遥香(4) 14633
    24位 高柳明音(K2) 14111
    25位 秦佐和子(K2) 13920
    26位 増田有華(B) 13166
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    28位 矢神久美(S) 11712
    29位 須田亜香里(S) 11323
    30位 古川愛李(K2) 11179
    31位 木崎ゆりあ(S) 10554
    32位 小木曽汐莉(K2) 9596

    33位 岩佐美咲(A) 9297
    34位 松村香織(S研) 9030
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    36位 仲谷明香(A) 8505
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    38位 宮崎美穂(B) 8173
    39位 永尾まりや(4) 7809
    40位 藤江れいな(K) 7782
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    44位 仲川遥香(A) 6890
    45位 田野優花(4) 6694
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    47位 宮脇咲良(H) 6635
    48位 片山陽加(A) 6602

    49位 武藤十夢(A研) 6428
    50位 石田晴香(B) 6333
    51位 菊地あやか(K) 6185
    52位 多田愛佳(A) 6140
    53位 松井咲子(K) 6058
    54位 山内鈴蘭(4) 6027
    55位 仁藤萌乃(K) 6025
    56位 木本花音(E) 5982
    57位 大場美奈(4) 5969
    58位 市川美織(4) 5963
    59位 大家志津香(A) 5933
    60位 小笠原茉由(N) 5919
    61位 佐藤すみれ(B) 5706
    62位 矢方美紀(K2) 5606
    63位 中西優香(S) 5592
    64位 小森美果(B) 5398

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