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May 18, 2012 at 3:03 am #30930
Only speculations, but it seems like the live@TDC will be late august.
http://i.imgur.com/NG7cQ.jpg
(thanks H!O forums ^^)And if you haven’t already seen it 秋元康 posted on google+ that acchan will graduate during the concert and the theater concert the day after.
May 18, 2012 at 10:14 am #30940I’ve been curious. Earlier you said if they made a NYC48 that you’d boycott that. This led me to think of the several ways this sort of thing could be handled. Mind you I know very little about idols, but I wonder if you’d boycott it if it were setup in the following different ways:
1) Ambassadors: In this scenario the members of NYC48 would be all Japanese idols who set up shop in NYC. Some of them could be idols from existing groups who join NYC48 to help it get started, and for the experience, while others are new idols. They still would maintain a presence in Japanese media, but also take a more active role in American media. Both countries could vote for them.
2) Mentors: In this scenario the members are NYC48 would be all Americans, but real Japanese idols would be their mentors and coaches. The end result would be more American, but the core concepts of the Japanese idol phenomenon would be maintained.
Anyway, I guess my thought is they wouldn’t have to be all Americans americaning it up. ;)
What do you think?
May 18, 2012 at 11:11 am #30941The Japanese perception of idols in the West is too cynical. It just simply would not work because a vast majority of Westerners do not share the same values as the Japanese people when it comes to idol groups with exception of Western fans. For the sake of the girls that are going to potentially be in the group and AKB’s reputation, I would definitely not allow any group to exist in what we refer to as “the West”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSzG-Dz4Y0
If you take a look at this CNN review with Akimoto Yasushi, the producer of AKB, that CNN interviewer basically seems like she questions that look down upon AKB. Its entirely in Japanese but there are questions like “You have created songs about prostitution and suicide. Isn’t this a bad image for girls everywhere?” which I hope makes him reconsider his decision because Westerners can not look beyond the surface and point out the bad things first before they can even look at any good points which we call “criticism” but theres a point where it divides into “constructive criticism” and “criticism” just because it looks like another WTF Japan topic.
Back to the actual topic, the idols themselves do not have to be Japanese. This is the case in JKT48 where all the members are Indonesian (JKT = Jakarta,Indonesia). So in NYC, or just USA in general, it would be difficult to ascertain who gets in because the US is a huge melting spot so to speak. In the case of Japanese media coverage, JKT gets little to no coverage because its just not in Japan.
Either way, what I just really want to say is that idea of Japanese idols or anything like it existing in places other than Asia or Japan is impossible.
May 18, 2012 at 12:21 pm #30942@missingno15 – If I understand you correctly, then it sounds like you not a fan of the idea because idols, and the concept of idols, don’t get respect in the US, or outside of Asia in general. Would you say that’s correct?
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May 20, 2012 at 4:33 am #30987Pretty much.
May 20, 2012 at 6:44 am #30993I can’t blame you there. I feel the same way when my hobbies or interests are painted in a negative light. I have to admit when I first started talking with you about idols I expected to see or hear about a darker side to it, but it sounds like it’s generally a positive thing for the fans and the idols. There aren’t enough communities that are based on that kind of positivity.
May 20, 2012 at 8:15 am #30996everyone else is basically like
http://rambly-ramblings.2308065.n4.nabble.com/file/n4216298/StopLikingWhatIDontLike_9969.jpg
Yup, well I guess there are some negative things about idols but I like the positive things about it which I find there is a lot of
May 20, 2012 at 10:27 am #30999Haha, that pic is hilarious!
May 21, 2012 at 3:14 am #31027My package is sent, and now in transit :D :D should arrive Wednesday!
May 23, 2012 at 1:12 pm #31116AKB48 Preliminary Results
http://journal.aif48.org/?p=15106
Though its still anyone’s guess, still subject to massive jumps
May 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm #31275Flawlessly voted for my members
Need a video on how to vote for your oshimen?
Take a look at my video right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=degd-10cF4sMay 30, 2012 at 12:32 am #31279One mistake, you could choose the very bottom option, which was “none of the above”, so you don’t have to choose a prefecture. ^^
June 5, 2012 at 3:05 am #31417Less than 24h for senbatsu! excited :3 Yuihan #1 please xD
Nah, I am fine with whoever ranks highest, pretty much all members deserve it for the hard work they have done. I just hope Yui won’t get tangled up somewhere in the middle of the 13th-18th place fight. There were so few votes setting the members apart in these ranks, that everything can happen. To be honest, this is probably what will be most exciting to watch for me :312th Yui Yokoyama 4,301票
13th Aki Takajo 3,661票
14th Ayaka Umeda 3,484票
15th Minami Minegishi 3,396票
16th Rie Kitarie 3,302票
17th Tomomi Kasai 3,227票
18th Sayaka Yamamoto 3,218票19th Miyuki Watanabe 2,976票
June 5, 2012 at 8:01 am #31419http://www.akb48plus.com/senkyo/en/
http://www.akb48plus.com/senkyo/Tune in!!!! Watch history be forged
June 6, 2012 at 12:49 pm #31457順位 名前 票数
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62位 矢方美紀(K2) 5606
63位 中西優香(S) 5592
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