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    Anonymous

    Quality last postswwwww

    #36095

    jrc03c
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    *unsubscribes from trolls*

    I still contend that, if for no other reason than the fact that they are in the same category called “language,” there must be similarities between Japanese and English; otherwise, they would be categorically different things. And even if the similarities are few and far between, then it’s still better to give a paltry explanation than the retort that’s unnaturally abundant around here: “Don’t bother.” If the latter were the reply to most questions in life, then it would be a miracle if anyone ever learned anything. It does not at all follow from the supposed fact that contact points between languages may be few that only a few things may be learned by comparing them.

    Now, onward with my question: Wikipedia (via @joel) said that です is a verb — specifically, a state-of-being verb (or copula). Is it the case, then, that じゃありません is also a copula, but negative? Or is it some form of the verb あります, which is not a copula?

    (P.S. — Though I’m not willing to accept the “Don’t bother” response, I will dutifully listen to someone who, with good reason, says, “Don’t bother right now.” In other words, if TextFugu deals with all this in a later chapter, then I’ll willingly suspend my questions till that time.)

    #36101

    Anonymous

    あります is a verb. It means “to exist”. ありません is the negative – “Does not exist” (The thing you’re talking about is not here)

    じゃありません is a shortened (and kinda formal, but less so than —>>>>) form of ではありません (The negative of です). They’re both negative forms and mean “Is not”.

    It’s probably one of the most basic/simple verbs in Japanese, so it will most definitely come up in TextFugu some time. For the time being, apply tuba’s advice and just work through it.

     

    Another case closed, Watson.

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    #36103

    jrc03c
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    Thank you for the straightforward answer. That’s exactly what I wanted to know.

    #36183

    Well, this thread made for a good read :P

    I was going to contribute, but the advice given so far has been fine. There is merit to both sides of the argument. It’s up to you who you listen to, who makes the most compelling argument. I’d have to side Joel’s team, but tubatime isn’t totally wrong.

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