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  • April 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm #29515

    CorrBlimey
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    Hi I’m not sure if this has been brought up before but I was wondering if it was possible to get printable list versions of the vocabulary/kanji radicals/kanji.

    I find it difficult to study on a computer as there are too many distractions just a few clicks away. So before I wasted time and spent hours typing lists I thought I’d ask if anyone knows of an easier way.

    Thanks

    April 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm #29516

    thisiskyle
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    There is a way to export anki decks to a text file.

    First off, don’t abandon computer study. Why not switch off your wi-fi or unplug if you are too distracted? I know there are offline distractions too, but they are fewer. Also, if the problem is that your attention is too easily pulled away from your studies, that’s likely to happen regardless of whether you use the computer or not. Perhaps you should look at what you are doing. Is what you are studying and the way you are studying it interesting enough to keep your attention? Is your environment too full of distractions that make it hard to focus? Did you eat right/sleep right/get enough physical activity recently? These can all affect focus and concentration.

    Anyway, if you open a deck in Anki and click file->export, it will allow you to export to a text file that is UTF-8 encoded. You can print it as is if you want but it would look better formatted probably. Open up Excel, file->open, select to view all file types and navigate to the text file your deck was exported to then open it. A wizard will open allowing you to see what info is being put into which column (you can probably just keep hitting next). Then once it’s open, you can add headings and change font and do whatever you want to do to make it look pretty.

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    April 16, 2012 at 6:30 pm #29520

    CorrBlimey
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    Thank you very much. I really appreciate the info. I’d be happy to offer the files to anyone who wants them afterwards.

    As for the how and whys…tbh its not so much the distractions as it is I like to have physical lists and notes around me. I like to be able to make notes beside words or to just write things down when I learn them or if I learn something relevant. It’s just the way I’ve always leaned.

    When I use the computer I find that I spend too long fiddling with the formatting…not so much an issue with when I’m writing. I’m more comfortable with a notes folder and when I write I retain thngs better. When I read its often in and out in a matter of minutes and I rely too much on scrolling up and down to get back to the lists/information whereas I try harder to remember something when I have to physically search for it.

    I suppose it boils down to the way I’m used to studying and sadly I like it old school.

    Do you like the computer better for study or do you mix it up? Any tips perhaps?

    April 16, 2012 at 6:40 pm #29521

    MisterM2402 [Michael]
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    Back in my day, Koichi gave us a link to Excel sheets for all the Ultimate Vocab lists. Printed them out, laminated and stuck them up on the wall behind me, so I could just swivel round and have a look every now and then :D It’s been a while since I used TextFugu, but maybe they are still there? You could even ask Koichi in an email, as he may be able to send you them :) Or… you could just take Kyle’s advice – which I’m reading just now – and export the decks :P

    Edit: Yeah, in this picture here -> http://www.textfugu.com/season-5/casual-nouns/1-3/#top
    That’s what I had and they looked pretty good :) Still had to format it to make it fit on as few pages as possible though XD

    Edit 2: Ah, it seems I actually still have the formatted Excel sheets, if you want them :) Made them the right size to fit on A4 (you just have to adjust the print margins a bit)

    April 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm #29526

    thisiskyle
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    I mix it up quite a bit. I use the computer for all my flash card stuff. As far as physical lists of words or kanji go, I think they get too long too fast. I’ll agree that as far as formatting goes, it’s a lot easier to keep track of things on paper. You can write a kanji in the upper corner of the sheet, the readings and stroke order beside it, some example words below, with a sentence for each. Ah, no nice and organized and it takes far less time than trying to do things on a computer. Someday technology will be to a point where we can simply explain what we want and not have to mess with margins and rulers and text boxes etc etc. We’ve come a long way but there are still some fairly simple things that computers can’t come close to humans at doing.

    My physical notebooks are filled with exercises from some other books (textfugu practice pages pending…) with kanji writing practice filling all available empty space. With that said, I rarely go back and look through my notes. Never have. Not for Japanese or anything else I’ve studied. It just piles up and I eventually throw it out…but I think writing helps anyway.

    I am a sucker for hard copies though. When I was teaching physics in the States, I often had to print out all the lesson plans, worksheets, handouts, tests, quizes and so on and lay them out to get a sense of what was going on on which day. The same is true for calendars. If I try to plan something out using google calendar or something and just leave it on the computer, it means nothing to me. Gotta have it on the wall, looming over you at all times.

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    April 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm #29695

    CorrBlimey
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    I agree it needs to be in physical form for me to take heed of it.

    Michael I would really appreciate those files if it’s not too much bother.

    Thanks for the advice guys. Its really great that you guys took time out to help me.

    April 20, 2012 at 8:27 pm #29735

    MisterM2402 [Michael]
    Member

    @CorrBlimey: Ah, sorry I haven’t been on in a couple of days :/

    Here you go:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31363635/Japanese/Ultimate%20Adjectives.xlsx
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31363635/Japanese/Ultimate%20Nouns%201.xlsx
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31363635/Japanese/Ultimate%20Verbs.xlsx

    These lists will probably be a little outdated, since it’s been… well it’s been a while since I made them anyway :P I think that Koichi has added more to the nouns, but you could always add them yourself, I guess.

    April 20, 2012 at 9:56 pm #29740

    CorrBlimey
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    Thanks soooo much. I hope I can return the favour some day.

    April 22, 2012 at 7:04 pm #29778

    MisterM2402 [Michael]
    Member

    It’s no problem :)

    …on second thoughts, you could always give me your life savings. That should suffice for compensation, I think ;)

    April 22, 2012 at 10:52 pm #29781

    missingno15
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    What’s this about giving away life savings? Give them to me, and it will go to a good cause, guaranteed

    April 22, 2012 at 11:40 pm #29785

    マーク・ウェーバー
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    Yeah I am sure you will spend them well… At least Akimoto will be pleased :P

    April 22, 2012 at 11:56 pm #29786

    CorrBlimey
    Member

    Guys I7m sure that you all have great intentions for my life savings but I’m not sure what exactly you can do with 12 pence and a fuzzy looking humbug I found down the back of a sofa, cause seriously thats all I got.

    April 23, 2012 at 12:46 am #29788

    マーク・ウェーバー
    Member

    I am sure Missing will accept the money gladly lol

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