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July 29, 2012 at 3:03 am #33716
Does anyone know much about the ‘Pimsleur’ method of learning languages?
I don’t really know what it is, let alone if it is any good, a friend just mentioned it to me…- This topic was modified 12 years, 4 months ago by vanandrew.
July 29, 2012 at 5:13 am #33721The last time someone mentioned Pimsleur to me, it was a dude I randomly met on Skype who said he was gonna learn Japanese with JUST Pimsleur and skip out on the whole writing process. Fortunately for him, I’ve met a couple of people who are better at speaking then reading so if not for those people, I would have gone off my rockers and trolled him like crazy.
In short, its not something I would recommend.
July 29, 2012 at 7:50 am #33722From what I’ve been reading, it looks as if the Pimsleur courses are mainly aimed at people who only want to speak a language and not learn to read and write it. All of us here want to be able to do that plus read and write. It might be the case that a lot of what you learn especially in the early stages you would have already covered here on TF or other resources.
The first thing that strikes me about Pimsleur is the way it’s marketed. It reminds me of Rosetta Stone and the price tag is hefty too. There’s better resources out there than RS, like here for example. I feel it’s probably the same with Pimsleur too. You’ll learn exactly the same stuff you would on RS and Pimsleur with other resources, plus it’ll be cheaper too.
To sum up, I agree with missing. Definitely not worth paying for it.
You should email me andrew. My email is osakajin8@gmail.com
If you have Skype we can also talk there.
July 30, 2012 at 9:17 am #33751I haven’t looked into Pimsleur a ton because at the moment it’s just “that thing that ads think I will be interested in.” Have you guys seen those “Language Professors HATE HIM” ads too or is it just me?
July 30, 2012 at 9:56 am #33757Yeah I’ve been seeing that everywhere, its pretty annoying.
By the way, you can read about Pimsleur here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimsleur_language_learning_systemand then the company here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimsleur_Language_Programs_%28company%29- This reply was modified 12 years, 4 months ago by missingno15.
July 30, 2012 at 10:40 am #33759Before I found TextFugu, I looked into Pimsleur. Here are some things to know:
Paul Pimsleur was a man who did research on language learning and he developed some good ideas.
“The Pimsleur Approach” (which is heavily advertised as mentioned above already) uses Pimsleur’s ideas but their business practice is somewhat predatory (low introductory price, but they start charging you a lot monthly unless you cancel and return the product).
Simon & Schuster also have a Pimsleur learning system and their business practice is much better.
All that being said, if you are interested in “output” style learning, you should look into your local library system. I live in Seattle and the Seattle Public Library offers online language learning tools for free. Specifically Mango (which I have tried and like) and LiveMocha (which I have not tried). Mango uses spaced repetition (like Pimsleur) to develop basic conversational skill.
July 30, 2012 at 2:34 pm #33763Dylan – Thanks for posting about the Seattle library! I’m over on the east side but want to get a Seattle library card. Now I have extra incentive. ;) Thanks again!
Cassandra
July 31, 2012 at 2:12 pm #33803I’m sure if you wanted to ‘try’ pimsleur, there are sites you will find a torrent of it..
If you wanted to go down the audio book route, I would look at michel Thomas method.. Again, available to “try” in places..
Basically I have tested both full courses and neither were really that strong.. I would recommend vocab vocab vocab from an srs like anki or iknow.. That will get you further than these rip off courses.. If you see it advertised a lot.. Thats where your money is going. Not into a new and better product..
Hashi, I would recommend private browsing and dont track me.. You won’t get served annoying, algorithm driven ad’s that tell you to hate people ha!
August 1, 2012 at 3:30 am #33852I tried one. It was naff.
August 1, 2012 at 3:57 am #33853@ andrew
Rosetta Stone like eh?
August 1, 2012 at 11:25 am #33890I have seen a video on youtube about it. Then I looked up some other customer reviews and it is a huge ring of fraud to steal your credit card number. Look out.
August 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm #33907I’ve tried out the first few audio lessons. I enjoy them if I have a long car ride ahead of me. I used to drive 30 minutes to work everyday so audio lessons were great. I was mainly listening to JapanesePod101 however. Pimsleur seems very robotic and to the point where as JapaenesePod101 is more like a conversation in a podcast type setting. There are a lot of unscripted parts and laughter throughout JapanesePod101 which you definitely won’t see much of on Pimsleur. I would definitely say JapanesePod101 is more entertaining. I however never listened to them to seriously learn anything. I listened to them more for entertainment and for a bit of practice. So if you are listening them to really learn something, you may learn better with Pimsleur as they get to the point and have less chit chatting. I mainly use Textfugu for learning new stuff and occasionally read through a chapter in my Genki textbook.
August 1, 2012 at 4:54 pm #33925^
I would disagree with you. JapanesePod101 does a good job explaining many things I didn’t know and I have used it for serious study. Maybe because its because I have only used the Intermediate lessons? Those are really helpful. And because there is a lot of talking and laughing, it makes the learning more human-like.
On the other hand Pimsleur doesn’t really teach you anything. It’s more like a phrasebook that was turned into an audio cd and instructs you to memorize them. Which of course, does not work in the real world.
Pimsleur: お手洗いはどこにありますか?
Me: 知りませんが、奥さんはかなり裸族ってよく聞くんですけど、後で覗きに行くからどこに住んでるか教えてもらってもいいですか?August 1, 2012 at 6:58 pm #33931I’m using Pimsleur. That is how I got started into Japanese. It was for fun at first and then it has gotten serious. I’m at Pimsleur Japanese II Lesson 27. I listen to it while driving to work. It has 3 levels and each level has 30 lessons. Each lesson is 30 minutes in length.
It was hard at first because I don’t know the grammar yet. I learned the grammar after reading Tae Kim’s free Japanese grammar online. From then on listening to Pimsleur and understanding it got easier. It is really good if you want to learn conversational Japanese.
Then I signed up for Textfugu to learn the Kanji. I also found an online language partner. She lives in Japan. I found the website from Tae Kim’s website. Hope that helps. Cheers.
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August 2, 2012 at 12:29 am #33948Missing, I agree with you and prefer JapanesePod101 myself. I don’t think pimsleur is horrible. Depending on your learning style I think either could be good. I was just saying Pimsleur may be better if you want to get straight to the point. I haven’t gotten very far in either so once you get to the intermediate stuff, I’m sure things change quite a bit between the two.
I enjoy JPod101 more because of the causal feel but someone wanting more of the nitty gritty may like Pimsleur better.
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