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  • #16295

    リンディ
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    Just wondering how you all feel about this? I’m trying not to use it as much, because I think it was actually hurting me more than it was helping. Recently while trying to read Japanese I’ve been trying to look for words/kanji that I already know without resorting Rikaichan. Since I’ve started doing this, I’m actually surprised by how much I know/recognize without its help.

    A lot of times I used it lazily/out of habit, even if I already knew what it was. When I began noticing this habit, I immediately worked on dropping it.

    Just curious; how much do you rely on it, and do you try to read kanji before resorting to rikaichan?

    #16296

    I read what I can until I get to a word that I can’t read, then I Rikaikun it (yeah, I use the Chrome version of Rikaichan). Why would you look up words you already know? Seems a bit silly :P If you don’t use Rikai-whatever for words you don’t know, you’ll have to look them up some other dictionary anyway, so there isn’t really any need not to use it… unless you want to guess, but that doesn’t sound a reliable method haha ;)

    #16298

    リンディ
    Member

    Like I said, HABIT. I guess I didn’t word this properly. ._.”’

    I suppose what I really meant was, do you think that physically looking up a word rather than using rikaichan more effectively helps you remember said word?

    #16300

    Hmmm… not particularly, unless I don’t really “get” it, then I have to look up example sentences on jisho.org. But just for a quick check to see the definition of the word, Rikaikun’s pretty good :)

    Actually, I’m not really sure about that one… man, are MY answers useful or what? :P Sorry.

    #16301

    リンディ
    Member

    Ah, I was just looking for opinions, really; there’s no right, wrong, helpful/non helpful, or bad answer. :P Starting this topic made me realize a few things and now I feel really silly for even bringing it up.

    I was mostly just curious as to how people make use of of RikaiCHAN (firefox ftw :D), besides the obvious, and how often they rely on it.

    #16313

    RikaiCHAN is for babies (hence the「~ちゃん」), RiaiKUN is for the cool peeps (hence the「~君」).

    True story.

    #16314

    リンディ
    Member

    I’m cuter.

    true story.

    #16315

    リンディ
    Member

    Also, it’s not -always- for babies. I’ve heard grown men call each other ~ちゃん (close friends). I’d rather be CHAN than KUN. :D

    #16319

    Elenkis
    Member

    And grownups use Rikaisan! ;p

    http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=5562

    By the way, with rikaisan you can toggle off the English definitions entirely (press D) and have it only show you the kana. So then it effectively acts just like furigana. That might help it feel like less of a crutch for you?

    #16321

    リンディ
    Member

    Hmmm, I might try that! Because often I recognize kanji only from doing RTK, but I don’t know the readings. :]

    I’ve done that on accident with Rikaichan a few times but I didn’t know how I did it, so thank you! haha. I had to keyboard-mash to get it back to the way it was.

    Yes, IMPROVISE. orreadthedirectionsbutwhodoesthatanyway.

    nb4rikaisama.

    #16340

    I tend to find that I’ll check it most of the time even if I know the word. It’s not necessarily a bad thing since I’m just beginning to read things that are more complex than “THIS IS…”

    I think its nice to check after you’ve read a sentence anyway, just to make sure there isn’t some alternate meaning…

    #16346

    リンディ
    Member

    THANK YOU, I’m glad I’m not the only one who does this.

    #17359

    ich1go
    Member

    you can disable definitions in rikaichan aswell,
    Options > Dictionarie tab > “口Hide definitions”

    #17361

    Sheepy
    Moderator

    Yes this is a bad habit for me to, like i’ll accidentally just leave it on and get lazy and decide I don’t want to actually read something myself.

    #17394

    Revenant
    Member

    I use it on first encounters, then check in closer on the Kanji, see if I knew them from
    RTK before, maybe look up the stroke order on yamasa kanji, then proceed to read myself.
    I try not to rely on it. But it is an insanely useful study tool!

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