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  • #35144

    Brian
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    So, I’ve read in some threads here that many of you are using or have used RTK to assist with Kanji.  I’ve decided to buy part 1 and go through it.  I’m aware that it doesn’t teach you the readings, but I think breadth-first learning is a good strategy, one I’d like to try for the Kanji.

    My question is, when should I do RTK with respect to TextFugu?  I’m nearly done Season 2 right now.  Should I do RTK now, or should I wait and do it after I’ve made somewhat more progress with TextFugu?  Maybe it doesn’t matter, opinions?

    #35145

    kanjiman8
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    No time like the present. The sooner you begin it the better. You can study both RTK and the lessons here on TextFugu at the same time. However, it might be a good idea to not bother with TextFugu Kanji as you might cause some confusion.

    #35146

    Brian
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    Ok sounds good, just bought it on Amazon.  Can’t wait!

    #35147

    Neil
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    @ Tom

    When you  say not to bother with the Textfugu Kanji do you mean all of it or just the mnenomics?

    As I understand it RTK only gives you the English meaning for the kanji and no reading or vocab?

    I’m currently  a third of the way through season 4 and am starting to notice where the kanji vocab and the vocab in the chapters connect (particularly the verbs).

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 2 months ago by  Neil.
    #35152

    kanjiman8
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    @Neil

    Yes, I meant the mnemonics but also all the amount of Kanji. Using both Heisig’s mnemonics and TF’s will probably end up causing confusion. Vol 1 of RTK covers over 2,000 Kanji where as TF only has 388 Kanji at the moment. Vol 2 of RTK teaches you the readings but a lot of students say there are better resources out there (often free) that do a better job.

    #35156

    Luke
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    I wish I didn’t do it personally, so I’m going with never. ;)

    #35158

    Neil
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    @ Yggbert

    Didn’t do textfugu kanji or rtk?

    I actually remembered that I got the rtk app before starting textfugu but didn’t knowwhat to do with it, butlooking at it now it looks to be quite good.

     

    #35162

    kanjiman8
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    @ Neil

    I think Yggbert is referring to RTK as I remember him saying he did it a while back on another thread.

    RTK is either going to be for you or it isn’t. You won’t really know until you try it out. From both the positive and negative reviews I’ve read on the first book, while you do get to learn 2,000+ Kanji in a short space of time, it takes a lot of discipline and patience to work through it.

    #35164

    Brian
    Member

    @ Yggbert

    Can you elaborate on why you wish you never did it?

    If it’s just discipline and patience, I think I can manage that.  But if there are negative aspects or side-effects to learning the Kanji with RTK, I might as well know about them beforehand.

    #35165

    kanjiman8
    Member

    @ Brian

    Here’s the thread from a couple of months ago about RTK. Yggbert’s post is the third one down. It’s also worth reading what other TF members say about RTK.

    http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/remembering-the-kanji/

    #35168

    Brian
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    Thanks for the link to the other thread.  I’d say that my questions have been answered.

    #35169

    Neil
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    @ Brian

    So which way have you decided to go, I’m still undecided?

    #35170

    Brian
    Member

    I’m going to do RTK.  I ordered the book on Amazon, I’ll start when it get’s here.  Just being familiar with what’s worked for me in the past, I feel like having partial knowledge about the Kanji is going to be really useful when picking up new vocabulary, and the pronunciations, later on.  It gives me some reference point in my head to attach the new knowledge.

    Edit: Oh and I’m probably going to continue with TextFugu’s Kanji as well, even with the risk of confusing things between the two.  The reason is, I want to make sure I know all the Kanji related vocabulary that come up in the TextFugu lessons.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 2 months ago by  Brian.
    #35172

    kanjiman8
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    @ Brian

    You could just download the vocab decks and skip the TF Kanji. Either way, it’s up to you. When you’re done with RTK, your bound to have learnt all the Kanji there is on TF anyway. I know Koichi is busy but who knows when he’ll have 2,000 + Kanji up on the site. Could take awhile. Also, with vocab there’s more flexibility. You can find the words you want to learn and just make custom anki decks out of them.

    #35173

    Brian
    Member

    True, I could just go with the vocab decks.  I’ll play it by ear; when TF Kanji starts to feel redundant, I’ll think about stopping.

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