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  • #25750

    koichi
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    Please Read First: http://www.textfugu.com/2012/01/under-construction/

    To sum things up, we’re still working on the updates, but there’s a lot of new stuff in the updates (even new content, what what?). If you find any problems with the design stuff, please let Hashi know. If you find any problems with the content stuff, please wait a few days, because that’s getting a lot of updates the next few days (we didn’t want to keep the site down for a couple more days, so certain things are still in the middle of updating), and then email me or submit the issue through a bounty.

    That being said, nobody likes change, so let me know what you don’t like :’( and we’ll think on it (or, you could tell us what you like, too, and we’ll think on that as well).

    Time to put some bengay on my fingers… type type type.

    #25753

    winterpromise31
    Moderator

    Koichi and Hashi –

    I really like the icons on top, the book and kanji and fugu. Are those supposed to be clickable right now? I can hover and read what they are but can’t click on them.

    My only comment on the design is about the blog post. The buttons at the bottom for the date and comments are REALLY difficult to read. The colors make the text almost impossible to make out. Edited to add – same with the submit button for the forum posts. Something about that color of green/yellow with the white text…

    I look forward to the new content!! Thanks for all of your hard work!!
    Cassandra

    #25754

    I like it when websites change! I’m excited to explore all the new stuff you guys have been working on and adding to the site! I’m already enjoying the little things like those icons at the top right and their fancy fade-in, fade-out tooltip-type things. I’m certainly amongst the group of people who have been having difficulty remembering kanji-related vocab, so I’m excited about the improvements in that area.

    Sadly, I’m having Chrome-based problems where I can’t seem to see the majority of the Japanese text on this site anymore. It just… doesn’t show up. Screenshot of what I mean: http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp49/Sabredragogashi/Privateish/nojapaneseforme.jpg
    Apparently I can highlight and right click things and see a bit of text in the ‘Search Google for ___’ bit.

    It all shows up fine in Firefox and IE, but Chrome doesn’t want to cooperate which is sort of odd because it worked before. After I noticed that though, I did some Google searching and found out that Chrome just plain doesn’t display kanji reliably – it’ll show Traditional Chinese characters instead of the Japanese kanji. I know I was kind of surprised when the genius kanji (which looked like the katakana character オ on TextFugu) looked a bit different when it showed up in Anki. A bit confusing, but I got past that. I think I’ll be switching to Firefox for my Japanese studies from now on though so I don’t accidentally teach myself Traditional Chinese characters instead of proper Japanese. (Why, Chrome, why? 8|)

    I wonder if maybe it would be appropriate to warn people somewhere that, depending on which browser they’re using, they may be seeing the wrong characters… The characters displayed in this chart show up differently between Chrome, Firefox, and IE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification#Examples_of_language_dependent_characters

    After comparing them, I’m guessing Firefox’s character rendering is the most accurate there.

    Bff, SORRY FOR THE RAMBLE. Maybe you’ve heard all this before, but it just came up and blew my mind and I felt like I had to talk about it, haha.

    But yep, I’ve been waiting excitedly all day to see what sorts of wonders awaited me on TextFugu and nothing’s made me feel the want to tear my hair out yet! Well I mean, aside from Chrome having character-displaying bugs that have apparently been reported for years and aren’t fixed yet. But that’s not your fault. :c

    #25755

    Ian Smith
    Member

    On the individual kanji pages you might want to link to any radicals or component kanji to encourage people to stay engaged. Still, it’s a nice improvement!

    #25756

    Joel
    Member

    The text has gone all teensy on my iPad. It’s not auto-resizing to fill the screen, or something.

    #25757

    Rioter
    Member

    Hmm I like it, I think x). I like the kanji page now more!

    Also, I use chrome and I have no problem with Japanese displaying. But it may be just luck.

    #25758

    It works fine with Firefox, but no new lessons :(

    New layout looks fine, but it seems harder to navigate.

    #25761

    thisiskyle
    Member

    @Ian – The radicals are linked for the kanji with fewer strokes. It is presumably just a matter of time for that feature to be added to the rest of them as well.

    Overall I like the new kanji/radical layout. For the vocab page, I think it would be nice if each kanji in the vocabulary word was a link to that knaji’s page. The “Via” link is nice but it only links to a single kanji.

    Also, on all three of those pages (radicals/kanji/vocab), I think there should be links to the Anki decks. And while I’m on that topic, it would be nice if there were some way to see what was in the decks before downloading them (a Google doc perhaps) and manipulate the info in them to create your own card types etc. (I think there is info for creating decks from spreadsheets in the forums.)

    I’d also like to see a page for particles. They could be listed in the order they were introduced with a quick explanation of the uses, maybe one or two examples and links back to the section in which they were discussed. You could have a similar type page for verb conjugations.

    The download section would be a good thing to bring back too. If I loose my hiragana chart that I’ve printed from your site, its a bit difficult to relocate later. Which brings me to my last point. As, Mark mentioned, the site is a bit hard to navigate. For example, to get from the dashboard to Season 3, Chapter 4, Section 5, I have to perform 4 clicks. Doesn’t seem like a big deal, but it adds up if I have to do that every time I log in. I’d say doing one or both of the following would be a good idea. First, the easy one, put the links to the seasons back in the header to people don’t have to navigate to the TOC, have drop-down menus for each season that list the chapters and a second drop-down for the sections. You could have the titles for each section display on mouse over (or just have them there, static in the drop-down menu). That way, you could navigate to any section of any chapter of any season with one click from the dashboard. The second way to solve the problem would be some sort of internal bookmark system. Not sure how to implement that exactly but with a hard-copy text, I can put little sticky note on pages and always find my way right back to points of interest. It would be really handy to be able to do the same with Textfugu.

    I like the changes even if it seems like all I did was say what I thought was missing. Keep up the good work fellas.

    #25766

    Hashi
    Member

    @Firequill: I’ll take a look at the Chrome issue when I get home to my Windows computer. The problems that you’re showing us in that screenshot aren’t happening in Chrome for OS X, so it might not be a Chrome-only issue.

    @Joel: We’ve been noticing weird behavior on the iPad too, and are working on fixing it.

    @thisiskyle: We’ve had particle pages for Text/Tofugu on the back burner for a while now, it’s definitely something that’s on our radar.

    I agree with you that the menu still isn’t perfect. The problem with having the TOC in the header, and the reason why we made this change, was because you had to load the entire TOC, pictures and all, for every single page on TextFugu.

    The TOC is so much information, so we’re still trying to figure out how to balance showing you what you want to see as easily as possible with hiding all the information you don’t need. Needless to say, it’s a tricky balancing act, and we absolutely think that it could be a lot better.

    And we’ve heard a lot of request for a bookmarking system, but to be honest, I’m not sure how we would implement that either.

    #25776

    huw
    Member

    Variety Stick Rack! Nooooooo…. ;.;

    But if this enforces consistency across the site I welcome the changes.

    #25779

    Thanks, Hashi.

    I just had a look at TextFugu with Chrome on my Windows 7 netbook, and all seems to work fine there. Maybe I’ll have to try and find some solution of my own to fix my problems with my Windows Vista SP2 + Chrome combination…!

    #25786

    Hashi
    Member

    @huw It will also encourage consistency with other, yet-to-be-announced TextFugu projects :)

    #25796

    Mark
    Member

    I like the new update overall but two annoyances for me:

    1. The big red banner on the dashboard give me a seroius headache, please,please change the color of it!
    2. Its more awkward to get at the lessons

    #25814

    sissyharu
    Member

    Maybe since we are in the mood for updating the site, how about a forum search option?

    I’m loving the updates so far on textfugu. One thing I might have to get used to is not seeing the pictures when looking at the Chapters but I don’t think its a bad thing ^^

    I absolutely adore the kanji and radical ‘pages’!!!!

    Thank you so much everyone!

    #25816

    Luke
    Member

    Aww. I preferred the old table of contents, I was planning to go back and review things and having the pictures/descriptions made it easy to track down stuff I wanted to revise! Are descriptions going to come back by any chance?

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