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  • #43713

    Rhys
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    Ok my heads swimming a bit here doing my Anki decks.

    What I get mixed up with is the reading of certain kanji. Doing the sentences deck with the sentence that has the katana kanji i read it as just ‘katana’ with the kanji being without other hiragana or kanji next to it. Then doing the kanji deck the katana kanji comes up and i say ‘katana’ because i figured if its katana when its on its own in the sentence i guess its the same here but thats incorrect as its ‘tou’

    Ive probably missed something…or a bunch of somethings, or just mixed up a bunch of somethings.

    Is the kanji deck for practicing how you pronounce the kanji if it were joined with other characters? So just the on’yomi pronunciations?

    And only certain kanji actually have a word/meaning as a kanji by themselves?

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    Joel
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    Yeah, the “kanji” anki deck is basically for memorising the readings of kanji in a vacuum, without context. It’s… only partially helpful, in that it doesn’t give you a feel at all of which readings should be used in which situations. Context is your friend.

    And yes, there are many kanji that aren’t ever found on their own in the wild, and always travel in packs.

    #43756

    Aikibujin
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    Unfortunately Koichi has made a string of typos in places that he gives the rules for what is an On reading and what is a Kun reading. So it took me forever to figure it out.

    But here’s the general rules:

    Kanji (alone) = Kun
    Kanji+Hiragana = Kun
    Kanji+Kanji = On

    One common exception is that Body Part Kanji+Kanji = Kun
    And numbers or counters do crazy stuff as well.

    There are a lot of exceptions that occur, but the above works in most cases.

    Really the only point of the Kanji deck is so you can learn the On reading so if you find a Kanji+Kanji word in the wild you can go On reading + On reading = Proper reading. Which will often be the case.

    Unfortunately though, there are some Kanji that will use their Kun readings even when it should use On.

    When Koichi created WaniKani, which is the Kanji learning system based on what you see here and greatly expanded, he actually teaches the Kanji with the Kun reading instead of the On reading if it’s the most common reading for that Kanji.

    So just think when you are reviewing the Kanji deck that these are the On reading and generally would not be seen on their own in the wild. To keep track myself, I often think how would I read this if it were paired with another Kanji, when I am reviewing that deck.

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    Rhys
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    haha. this language is crazy, my god.

    Cheers for the help!

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