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    Tom Jensen
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    Over the past week, sadly, my おじいさん passed away and I have been really busy doing family related things for the past week. However I noticed that over that short period of 4-5 days my Japanese study schedule and study habits were completely destroyed. I was wondering if anyone had any tips to prevent that sort of thing or to cram studying into a tight schedule. After all, I’m going to be very busy this summer and this coming year with college. Thanks!

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    #30661

    kanjiman8
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    Sorry to hear about your uncle passing away. Hope you and your fam are ok.

    As for your question. I think you should write up a schedule of when your going to be busy and plan around that for your Japanese study time. So say for exmaple, if you only have an hour free every evening, try and use that to do abit of studying. If you have a smartphone or ipod touch, download anki for that and import your decks so you can do some drills in your lunch break or on your way to college if you use the train, etc.

    I’d try to avoid cramming as it’s not really that effective for remembering things long term. It’s ok for studying for a test and not needing to remember that information anymore afterwards, but your going to want to want to remember what you learn for years so even doing 1 hour a day is better than 3 hours one day and skipping two days.

    #30675

    zeldaskitten
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    Sorry about your loss. My おじいさん (grandfather) also passed on this week (sunday morning) and I lost some study time too due to family events and the like.

    =^..^=
    #30676

    kanjiman8
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    Sorry for your loss too zelda :( . Hope you and your fam are doing ok.

    #30688

    Luke
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    You shouldn’t be ashamed of an emotional reaction to something like this impacting your studies, they can’t really be prevented. Take the weekend off and try to get back to some form of normality on Monday.

    #31371

    Tom Jensen
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    Once again, I am getting worried about the upkeep of my previously learned material. I am currently at around kanji number 350 in Heisig’s method (finally got back in the loop after all the rigemroll of the summer), however everything I started to learn through TextFugu is starting to deteriorate. Just wanted to know if I should stick With Heisig’s method or stop for a bit and do some more TextFugu work (or try cramming in both). All I know that forgetting what I learned is a really horrible feeling. Oh, and I have been doing my anki cards every day.

    #31372

    kanjiman8
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    It depends on what you want to acheive quicker and what you currently already know. If you want to focus soley on Kanji then RTK is a good option. If you feel you’re starting to forget things you already learnt then I’d stick with TextFugu and learn grammar and kanji at the same time. I have no experience with RTK and Heisig but I’m guessing it’s done differently to the way we learn kanji here on TF.

    Personally, I think it’s best to learn grammar and kanji at the same time. That way your balancing out the two. Take a look at this thread again http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/remembering-the-kanji/. I’m sure there’s more threads on the subject too.

    Also WaniKani is coming out sometime in the near future. I’ll check that out before commiting to RTK.

    #31373

    vlgi
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    What techniques are you using to learn and keep this information?

    If you are brute forcing it into your brain through memorisation and recall etc, then it will leak out.

    SRS are great for putting stuff in your brain, but without using that stuff to form more permanent links to the data it will eventually leak out.

    You need to find ways to keep the information in your head.

    A lot of people use mnemonic’s to add additional links to keep the stuff in their head (I’m not a fan of this as it often just creates junk associations, most I see just confuse the hell out of me, so isn’t always that useful in my opinion, but that said I do occasionally use them myself, natsu, means summer, its the start of the girls name natsume, which means coming of summer, similarly harume coming of spring, haru means spring. ) In my case I look for useful associations to keep stuff in my brain, or I guess ones I find amusing, like kasa, someone wants to borrow my umbrella, mi kasa su kasa bro, you know.

    I like writing, and its really fun to write them fancy Japanese characters so I find writing stuff, making sentences etc. helps me make additional connections.

    I like watching Japanese stuff, hearing stuff I learnt, used, makes it stick in my mind. I guess girls names helped me to learn Kanji and Kana. like i’ll never forget what river means, because its in a girls last name, and I’ll never forget what ma looks like because its in a girl name… (Uhhh I guess I like girls? Eh heh heh)

    I also tend to do a bit of everything, rather than choosing one resource or the other.

    I should also add the disclaimer that I’m lousy at Japanese, so the efficacy of these techniques is definitely questionable.

    I think as a new learner its easy to get carried away and go full blast at learning, and then burn out, or get demoralised because your progress isn’t as high as your enthusiasm, maybe you could chillax your learning schedule, go back and re-learn what you already have, instead of loving and leaving it, romance it some, re-ireru it into your brain, but in a different way.

    When I was younger, I found something interesting, I found that Maths was actually completely different than how I had learnt it, I had learned a bunch of rules and methods for taking something and turning it into something else, I ran like a computer, following algorithms, I had no understanding of Maths.

    I eventually was taught a different way, which showed me that in reality all the disparate parts of maths I had been taught were actually connected, in-fact you can break maths down into some really simple rules, lets us call them axioms, knowing those axioms, it made maths so much easier.

    Anyway my way of learning is about finding axioms, because from those the entirety of knowledge can be found, they imply the rest, instead of learning everything, learn the basics and then derive the rest.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 5 months ago by  vlgi.
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    #31379

    missingno15
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    You get into Aidorus and then before you know it, you’re studying everyday.

    Let’s all embrace idols and bow before them!

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    ^

    #31384

    Hashi
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    Sorry to hear about you grandfathers, Tom and zelda :( Mine passed away just a couple of years ago and it was pretty rough.

    Hang in there!

    #31395

    Tom Jensen
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    Thanks for the replies, I think I’m going to stick with Heisig’s method through to about 1000 kanji and re-evaluate my position then, until then I’ll have TextFugu review days once or twice a week to maintain my knowledge. As for my already learned Kanji, Heisig’s method does a really good job of keeping stuff in my head and I don’t think it’ll be coming out any time soon. Thanks everybody, and thanks Hashi, Kanjiman, and Zelda for the sympathy.

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