The "I found some Japanese I don't understand" thread.

[JoelMember]

Michael wrote:
> The imperative form means it can’t be past tense either, so “has vanished” doesn’t make sense.

Imperativeness aside, “has vanished” is present tense, of a sort – I’ve forgotten the technical term, but it’s indicating that something is currently in a state of having completed an action in the past. The past tense would be “had vanished”. Don’t forget, しまう indicates the completion of an action. My post above was more explaining the meaning of the verb rather than its particular usage in this song, and I was still writing it when you posted. =)

[missingno15Member]

みんな、太ってしまえぇ！

[マーク・ウェーバーMember]

There is a very easy example sentence given in lesson 4 in season 6 that goes:
いえ　には　子犬　が　いる。
At home (I) have a puppy.

Which is more correct には or では?
To me both particles seem right to be using here, but I am not well versed in these 2 particles so I don’t know for sure. If anyone could tell me which one is correct(and why) I would appreciate it :D

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[ElenkisMember]

で would be incorrect in that sentence. When で marks a location, it marks the location of an action or event. It can’t be used to mark existence (unless it’s the existence of an event).

[DazananMember]

@Joel that’s what I thought as well.. It’s a tough conjugation to put into English words and have it fit nicely I’m leaning towards misters translation though as I think I can actually use it without changing it to fit for that part of the song. It should keep with flow quite nicely and that’s what matters most to me in song translations.. Not as worried about the smaller details as long as it feels right to me. But thanks everyone for the help with shimau and now with buchi as well that was really bugging me

[マーク・ウェーバーMember]

@ Elenkis
Ahhh, thanks! Pretty simple explanation, I had forgotten that で could only mark a location of an action or event :)

[ElenkisMember]

消えてしまう just means “vanish/disappear entirely”, not that it “has vanished” (which uses past tense conjugation in Japanese from what I’ve seen).

Just wanted to clarify that :)

[ArmandoMember]

とかい ［都会］人口が多く商工業の盛んな所.
Could anyone provide a literal translation? The closest I’ve gotten to understanding it is: Population is large, prosperous place of commerce. Or… (More naturally) Place where population and commerce is abundant. But I’m really not sure, so help please?

[JoelMember]

Missingno: Did you just command us to get fat?

Armando: I’m thinking “City: a place of high population where commerce and industry flourish.”

[irmoonyMember]

So I found this flash animation about an urban legend about some killer popup called “red room”. It’s probably way beyond my (very basic) level, but hey, who cares. I’ve been trying to make sense of the text that appears in this flash anyway.

So here’s this sentence: ホームページを開いた瞬間、本来のブラウザ似外に表示される小さな広告。 Now, while I can’t translate this exactly (obviously), I can kinda get what this means… save for one little thing. 似外 – no idea what’s this word, couldn’t find it in a dictionary, when I put it in google images, I got a lot of pictures of heads and skulls, a lot of them deformed. So now I’m curious…

[ElenkisMember]

It’s 以外, not 似外 :)

Like… A small advertisment that displays in addition to the original browser, the instant you open a webpage.

In other words, a popup.

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[irmoonyMember]

Oh, thanks. I thought I might’ve made a mistake when writing down the kanji, but I guess I had a derp moment there.

[JenMember]

if i say 七人、whydo you say しちにん and not しちり?　and can you also say ななり ?

[マーク・ウェーバーMember]

一人　ひとり
二人　ふたり
三人　さんにん
四人　よにん

Basically the thing is that you use にん when it is past 2(though I don’t know for sure in higher numbers)
And no it is not called ななり it is called ななにん

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[MisterM2402 [Michael]Member]

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