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  • #31520

    Luke
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    I’m 60% through Core2k now, will finish by the end of this month, then I’m gonna try and get 3k done by August and after that I’m going to chill on vocab for a short while to study the remaining particles.

    #31532

    @Yggbert: How many are you doing a day?

    OT: I’ve got the other 4000 of Core6k added to my deck now (took a while to get it just right), should start any day now :)
    The other day I got this: http://www.zeldawiki.org/Hyrule_Historia – it cost… a fair amount, but it’s all due to having to be imported to the UK and the fact it’s reasonably rare. I’m a huge Zelda fan though, so the book is like a dream come true :D All in Japanese, so will take quite a while to get through; lots of pictures though :D

    A more visual link: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/12/15/nintendo-announces-legend-of-zelda-25th-anniversary-encyclopedia

    #31535

    Luke
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    @Michael I do 30 a day because if I do more I get drowned in reviews I think, 30 is a good enough pace for iKnow, it means I can get around one step done every 3/4 days! (each part of core is divided into 10 steps)

    I might toy with bumping it up to like 40 because according to the website finishing core3k should give you enough to read “most” Japanese text without a dictionary, kinda excited to get to that level. (I’m really sceptical of that though!)

    Actually on the iKnow site core1k, 2k, 3k and so on are all blocks of 1000 words each, how the hell are you getting 4000 words for just core6k?!

    and I like that book, looks really high quality.

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    #31542

    Elenkis
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    @Yggbert: You’re right to be sceptical, ignore what iKnow says about the various levels. 3000 words is certainly not enough to read most texts without a dictionary.

    #31559

    Luke
    Member

    Those slimy swines.

    #31560

    Michael uses the premade anki decks. They are divided in to core 2k, and core 6k ;)

    10.000 words and you should be able to read most texts only having to look up very few if any words. In the Oxford English dictionary there are over 170.000 words :p

    #31572

    Yeah, I’m talking old style here haha. Back when it was just Core 2000 (first 2000 words) and Core 6000 (the other 4000 words). As for the thing about 3000 words, there’s no way you could read “most” texts without a dictionary at that point; I don’t know where they are getting that from :D

    OT: I started on the first 20 words in Core6k last night, and *boy* is it boring ¬_¬ I’m sure the words will get a little more useful as I move on, but at the start it’s all politics and business – still worth knowing, but just… boring nonetheless :P

    #31584

    Luke
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    Ah I get it! Hmm yeah you are right, I guess they are just talking about day to day conversation or something which I could sort of see as being at least half true. Not sure what I’ll do when I finish core6k, probably around the end of the year I’ll hit that maybe. Wonder where else I can go for vocab that isn’t just going to repeat most of what I’ve already done? Not looking forward to figuring that out!

    #31596

    @Yggbert: I think at that point, it would be best to start sentence mining. Or maybe you could just “pick up words as you go” through reading native material, but I don’t know how easy or hard that would be after 6000 since I’m not even *nearly* there yet. Good luck with finishing Core6k by the end of the year :D Hopefully I can get to that stage too, but we’ll see what happens once Uni starts again; don’t think I’ll be able to go fast enough to get 4000 done in… 6 months or so? That would work out to… 22.2/day roughly, so yeah, definitely won’t be able to do that :P Even over the Summer I don’t think I’ll be able to keep that pace – reviews pile up too fast :/

    Another thing that’ll hinder me is the fact that so many of the words in these 4000 I won’t have covered before. Before Core2k, I’d learned a lot through TF’s Ultimate decks, so even though there were 2000 cards to go through, I could go quickly since I knew a large % of the words already.

    #31606

    kanjiman8
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    I’m interested in subscribing to iKnow but I’ll think I’ll wait til Wani Kani is rolled out. Although both sites are sort of different I don’t want to too many monthly/yearly subscriptions to worry about. I was looking at iKnow’s payment plans and if you pay for a years membership upfront it only works out at 700 yen a month.

    Would all iKnow users recommend subscribing to it? Are you going to renew your membership when it expires?

    #31610

    Well I don’t really like iknow and prefer anki myself, but that depends on who you are :) You should try both and see what you like. If you need flashy things and achievements to keep you going, then definitely choose iknow. Each has its weaknesses and strengths :)

    #31611

    Elenkis
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    I recommend iKnow, but as Mark says everyone is different. You can try it out for free and see how you like it.

    The reason I like it has nothing to do with “flashy things” and everything to do with the method it uses for teaching words. I simply find the way it has you learn and review words in a variety of different ways each session is more effective at getting a word stuck into my memory.

    #31617

    Luke
    Member

    Same reasons as Elenkis for me, another thing is I use 4 different devices each on different OSes and getting all of them to stay in sync complete with media can be a bit annoying and sometimes I’ve had Anki lose small pieces of sync data, so the iKnow web based and mobile apps solve that problem so far.

    I doubt I’ll renew as I should be well versed with all of their content by the time it expires next April, if I’m still not great with recalling core6k stuff I’ll drop another 6 months down on it and after that I can probably cancel. This is assuming no new core decks show up!

    @Michael picking them up as I go along sounds good. Guess I’ll have to make my own decks or something, damn it, that’s totally effort! I doubt I’ll finish 6k by the end of the year but I think aiming for January/Feb is doable, thanks though!

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    #31636

    missingno15
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    took my first step in starting a blog

    http://ameblo.jp/missingno15/entry-11273782597.html

    #31637

    Nice Missing :D

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