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  • #27730

    Anonymous

    The rules for using と as “If” are these:
    v.dict + と
    i.adj + と
    na.adj + だ + と
    noun + だ + と
    The na-adjectives and the nouns have だ before the と. However, in the last example at the bottom of this page, http://www.textfugu.com/season-6/particle-to/1-8/, おもしろい has a だ after it. Can there be a だ after i-adjectives? Thanks for the help!

    #27736

    Joel
    Member

    Looks like a typo to me. The grammar dictionary gives basically the same usage instructions and similar examples, and never has だ after an い-adjective.

    #27738

    Same, I am pretty sure it is wrong to write だ after an い-adjective when と is following, and used as “if”.

    #27743

    Sheepy
    Moderator

    Something to clarify. Although it can roughly translate to “if” the implication is slightly different.

    It really means that if the clause before it happens, then the thing after will SURELY happen. So it’s different to ~たら and ば形 in that respect. It’s often used in giving directions or warnings.

    #27746

    It is also different from ~なら, which is used to say what would happen given a certain context.

    #27747

    It’s kinda like a “direct consequence” (I’m sure there’s a better term for it, but I can’t remember). Can often be translated to “when”, like “WHEN the light turns off, the door will open” or “WHEN I drop the ball, it will fall”.

    I think the differences between the varied conditional forms are quite interesting, at least once you “get” them :)

    #27761

    Anonymous

    Thanks for the help everyone!

    #27777

    thisiskyle
    Member

    I just think of と as still meaning “and”….Cut off somebody’s head and they will die.

    #27783

    @thisiskyle: Unless they happen to be a Hydra. Also, fair point.

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