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its rendaku. it kind of has rules, some words tend to get a dakuten/handakuten, some never, some get it all the time.
1st option. lets take 王女, 王子, 女子. you memorize the 3. you come across 子犬, so you have to learn it too.
2nd option. now if you learned 王, 子, 女. On top of knowing these 3 alone you now know meaning and reading of 王女, 王子, 女子 and if you come across 子犬 or 子牛 you already have an idea what these might be and part of how these are to be read.
now memorizing readings for 王女, 王子 and 女子 will most likely need as much effort as learning kun and on readings for 王, 子, 女. But the second option will have benefits in the long run.
Dunno how much clearer i can explain what i mean.Remember when i started on kanji 犬. And there was 子犬. It was “oh, child dog, a puppy. must be しいぬ or こいぬ.” so it was easier to remember what the reading was. Same with 牛 “子牛? it has to be こうし”.
Same thing with 女王 and 王女: you have to learn 女＝じょ and 王＝おう and 女王 and 王女 whereas I only have to learn 女王 and 王女 (even though it’s a particularly easy example since the readings are the reverse of each other, they’re still two distinct words with different meanings that you have to learn – *just* learning 女＝じょ and 王＝おう doesn’t work).
If you learn full words 王女(princess) and 女王(queen) then, when other words come up with either 女 or 王 youll have to learn them again. So, instead of learning how to read 王女 and how to read 女王 (2 things), learn how to read 王 and how to read 女 (2 things), but the latter will help you know how to read new words that have one of these kanji.
Same with the meaning of the word, for example princess and queen. If you know that 王 means king and 女 means woman. You can figure out that 女王 means woman king which is queen.
Ofc in the beginning theres 1 more thing to learn but in the long run it will help figure things out instead of learning it from scratch.
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アーノルド.
does 一人 and 二人 reading have anything to do with the use of these 2 words? like maybe “alone”?
jisho.org has example sentences. 二人は結婚した – They got married. Although google gives 独り for alone with the ひとり reading. Japanese are all over the place with their words :D-
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i have the same problem. ive started textfugu 20 days ago and am in season 4 chapter 7 (i new kana before that though), remembering kanji, grammar and words associated with grammar was easy, but plain verbs and adjectives are piling up on my review/learning list :(. it seems that the problem with verbs is that *ます with 1-2 syllables are hard to distinguish one from another because they sound similar, while longer ones are easier to remember(atleast for me). tried making up my own sentences but it didnt work. will have to try visualising or making up funny stuff, i guess.
hopefully it will be addressed in future so its easier for new people to learn it.
or maybe people could share their pictures/mnemonics that they use to remember verbs/adjectives.-
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I know this is old but it’s a similar thread and I’m basically wondering the same thing. It seems a bit pointless to learn the on readings along with the kun. I’m starting to think it’d be best to learn it like 上 means up and is used in 上げる／上がる, which are あげる and あがる. If I come across a word that uses the on reading, I’ll just learn the word (and therefore the/an on reading). Does this make more sense? I’m pretty sure it’s what Gustav Dahl was saying, restated, but I’d like to be sure.
That would be wrong imo. This way your increasing the amount of what you have to remember. Example: 女王 and 王女. Instead of remembering the 2 whole words you only have to remember the on readings for the kanji, and it gets worse when the word has more than 2 kanji in it. Ofc some of these words will have exceptions but i think its more productive to learn 2-3 readings associated with each kanji, than remembering how to say each combination.
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