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Well what about I use either Textfugu or Etoeto, and then when I finish all that it can currently offer, I just move on to Genki? Which I will then ask again, is the current EtoEto preferable to Textfugu? I’m not gonna just move straight on to Genki, I paid for Textfugu ffs.
Also either way I’m gonna also be using Wanikani alongside them too.
Whatever floats your boat my dude.
The current beginner content on EtoEto as far as I can see covers about 1/3 of what is on Textfugu. Textfugu covers about half of a japanese 101 course, give or take.
At the moment neither Etoeto or Textfugu will get you anywhere substantial. Get a textbook like Genki, because it’s a tossup when if ever Etoeto will be finished.
ソニーが中国で１月からゲーム機を売る
Sony – ga – China – de – january – from – game machine – sell.
Sony to sell game machine in China from January.If I remember the article it is because of new legislation making it possible to sell in China from January. They’re not selling a new machine, but just the PS4 and Vita I think.
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The Genki workbook might be okay.
Where to go after Textfugu eh.
Textfugu and Genki 1 have different grammar points emphasised. One thing you will want to do is acquire vocabulary and kanji, so RTK/Core/Whatever isn’t a bad start. Wanikani if you like Wanikani. I like Wanikani. But seriously, kanji and vocab. It’s so important.
Only having done TF, about halfway through Genki 1, I felt it was becoming slightly challenging. Near the end of Genki 1 I felt like I was learning mostly new things. Genki 1 definitely seems to go a bit further than TF, or maybe it’s just the sample text in Genki that is more difficult..
The Genki stories are all fairly inane and boring. The grammar explanations are fine.
My recommendation would probably be to just begin from Genki 1. You could probably skip a few lessons, but reviewing doesn’t hurt too much. If you feel like you know more than TF teaches you, you might be able to consider starting from Genki 2.
As for other textbooks, I’ve never tried them. I do have the Basic and Intermediate dictionaries of the japanese grammar though. They’re pretty nifty.
You should note that I’m not that much further than you, probably, so take what I say with a grain or five of salt.
So, I waited and waited and waited for this fabled update. Some months ago I decided I was tired of waiting, so I started on Genki instead. Now I’m almost done with Genki 2.
I guess my only regret was expecting too much. This page sure did give me a gentle intro to japanese though, as well as a hint about wanikani existing, so something good came out of it all. :)
Okay, focus, relax. There is no wrong way to learn Japanese. As long as you are surrounding yourself with Japanese learning and Japanese in general as much as you can, you will be learning. I know the situation you are in right now where you struggle to find the perfect syllabus and your path. I was there not long ago.
Nakama, Tobira, Japanese for Busy People, Genki.
These are all /great/ books that you can learn a lot from. Which one is best? Of course there is no best, you are the only one who can answer whether or not a certain pair of pants suit you. What I can tell you is that Genki is a very good book for someone who wants to go at a slow pace, with easy explanations. JfBP is as the title suggests concise and fast. If you want to blaze through and become somewhat conversational, use that book. Nakama goes further than Genki and has a different way of explaning things. It’s also a little bit faster paced. Tobira is, as far as I know, an intermediate book. Don’t bother thinking about that right now.
To be honest, I’m an indecisive guy. As I said I was where you are now not long ago. Then I found out that, maybe, if I just get one book and stick with it, I’ll learn. So I did. I’m on Genki II now. I’m enjoying the journey. Genki I served as a good refresher on basic grammar. I’m doing them with a teacher from italki. Genki is expensive. Genki is good. You can start from Genki 2 or Genki 1 depending on if you want to repeat or not.
I’ve kickstarted this! It’s not very helpful! I’m not sure what more to say. It can teach you words but you’ll have to repeat them in Anki anyway.
For me it’s always しちにん。 Mainly because of 七人の侍。 I didn’t actually know you could do ななにん before I saw this thread, but I guess it makes sense.
Don’t think a script would work: there isn’t one strict pattern to follow.
Actually, the delimiters are fairly easy to spot. Equals sign and newline. The issue of having several equals signs on one line is easily fixed with a steady hand or a simple line in a script. All in all something most office workers should be able to do in Excel.
I’ve taken the opportunity to turn them all into kana => English cards (mostly katakana, see below for explanation). Some kana had several meanings, so I changed them to say (Meaning 1) and (Meaning 2). I realize it’s not ideal, but it can be easily fixed by someone who wants to use the deck.
It’s got around 570 cards, and has not been tested to any real degree, so I’ll have to say beware. However, it appears to function as it should.
If you make any changes that you think makes the deck better, you should probably come back to the thread and tell us about it!EDIT: I found this: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese/Vocabulary/Onomatopoeia
Which explains when to use katakana and when to use hiragana. I’ll try to update the deck to reflect this, although it also says that it can be up to the writers discretion to choose which syllabary to use, so it’s not the end of the world if you learn them “wrong” in this deck, as either one can do. :)
Download.
Version 0.1. Added most of the sounds from the list
http://www.mediafire.com/?aazu1kin2pb0a17
Version 0.2. Changed the obvious things according to the Wikibooks article. Probably needs a lot more shining still
http://www.mediafire.com/?5ioe88i9mz7h4aaI didn’t know English when I was younger. Mario 64 was still all kinds of fun. I even learnt a few words! It’s not a great way to learn but you can still have fun and get a little bit of language out of it.
I suggest you play super simple shit like Super Mario or Yoshi Story.“The truth of the matter is that all those things simply serve to distract you from your studying.”
No. You’re being silly. Me being able to flip cards more easily or import a deck into another deck more easily would as a matter of fact do the exact opposite of that. I never asked for a flashy UI and I never asked for more features. As a matter of fact I’d like to see less features out of the box.
“You want something better? Then go out and pay for it.”
Or I could just, you know, do what I said I did, and use 1.2. If there is a better tool out there that I can pay for I’m up for that too though. And I still haven’t tried Mnemosyne.
As for improving the program itself, it is not within my reach, I don’t know how to program and I don’t intend to. Does this mean I am less competent in judging how good a program is? Perhaps. Does it mean I am incompetent in judging how useful the program is to me? To me, the answer is clearly no.
I will concede that calling it shitty is an insufficient shortcut, and if I were to write a real review, it would of course be more professional, but this is merely my own little soap box. Anki 2 has a mess of an UX.
Yeah, relatively pointless. When you in addition to this make people apply to it you’re not gonna get anywhere. Nobody wants to work to join something that is nowhere.
I started with Anki 2 and I must say, I think the program has a UX worse than the Nokia N-Gage. Simple things like importing a deck into another deck, and flipping all cards so you can use both sides of them for both answer and question are made so stupidly difficult.
I tried Anki 1.2, it is a lot better, however it has a fairly shitty UX as well.Maybe it’s something all flash card applications suffer from. I haven’t tried Mnemosyne or whatever it is called yet, figure I will once I’m through my current cards.
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