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January 28, 2013 at 7:13 am in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #38295
A family of Textfuguers. I’m jealous. ;)
January 25, 2013 at 8:20 am in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #38237@mtb812 – That’s a good reason to learn kanji. I have to admit my understanding level continues to rise the more kanji I learn. That’s why I think it’s important to learn reading it sooner rather than later. I’ve heard some say it’s more important to learn the words with the kanji first, and the kanji will just naturally follow. That makes sense, but I suspect that’s just another valid style for different learner types. I’m not certain which is best for me. It’s a shame someone doesn’t have a test to tell you which style will likely work better for you. ;)
@Carlos – Good question on the stroke order. I found, before I learned stroke order, that it would take me wayyyyyy too long to look a kanji up using radicals or any other method. However, Windows has something called IME Pad that lets you draw a kanji, and it’ll guess at the one you want. I believe most, if not all, electronic dictionaries have the same thing. My Android phone has an app called Kanji Recognizer which is an incredible tool for practicing, learning, and looking up kanji by stroke order. Any one of these tools is an incredible time saver. However, their accuracy on guessing the kanji you want goes down dramatically if you don’t do the stroke order correctly. IME Pad is the most forgiving, by far, that I’ve seen, but that’s partly because it’ll display a lot more guesses at once. You might ask why there aren’t kanji OCR apps, and the answer is that there are. However, they all seem to be terrible. I’ve yet to see one that even comes close to guessing very simple kanji. With so many messy things about the real world, lighting, fonts, angle of the shot, kanji OCR has a long long ways to go. Also, it would only be an option for a device with a decent camera. Plus, from a learning point of view spending 30 seconds to look up a kanji helps build a memory. Writing the stroke order in the process helps build a memory. Taking a photo, and looking at an answer really doesn’t. It’s kind of like Rikaichan. It’s a great tool, but most things I look up using it never stick in my memory, so I try to keep that to a minimum.
January 24, 2013 at 2:45 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #38225What’s your system that is faster than Textfugus? I’m always open to new ideas.
January 24, 2013 at 11:09 am in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #38218Oh I must confess, I didn’t take this into account when I made my previous post. I am a visual learner. Perhaps similar looking kanji doesn’t give me the same trouble that it gives others. That said, I will sometimes mess up similar kanji, but that’s only if I’m reading in a hurry.
I have a much harder time with words that sound similar in Japanese.
January 24, 2013 at 11:06 am in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #38216I’m nearly done with Textfugu, but I have to admit the thing that slows me down the most is the kanji. It’s not that I have a hard time with it, but it just eats up the most time.
I found writing kanji was very helpful in that it gave me a sense of stroke order which made looking up unknown kanji, and words, a lot easier. It did help with recall a little, but probably not enough to justify the time by itself. I think it’s important to spend some time learning to write the most common kanji, as soon as you start kanji, but other than that I would wait till you are closer to advanced before trying to learn to write more kanji. Understanding stroke order, and being able to guess it, is an invaluable tool. Knowing how to read kanji is a must, even early on, so in that sense I can’t imagine how it’s a waste of time, unless you’re not learning it effectively.
That’s my two cents based on my experiences at least.
December 17, 2012 at 11:21 am in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37512Welcome to the both of you. Be sure to post lots of questions. Part of Textfugu’s strength is the community. Just about everyone here has been where you’re going. We’ve all got some experience, advice, or resource that may save you time and effort.
November 25, 2012 at 8:02 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37314@mtb812 – Yeah, I’ve noticed in language I can’t always find out why, or I can’t find a good why, but the times that I do it really helps, so I keep looking.
November 25, 2012 at 5:34 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37310@mtb812 – congrats on completing-ish the season! ;)
“but does why really matter?”
That’s a good question. I can’t speak for anyone else, but for me it really does matter. There are plenty of examples of how when I’m struggling with a topic getting to why something works allows me to flourish in that topic. For example, when I was back in college I aced theoretical math classes like they were nothing, but when it came time for something simple like calculus I had a really hard time. That is until I talked the teacher into showing me the proofs after class. Once I saw what was really going on behind the scenes I could think back to the proofs, and I aced calculus as well. I’ve also observed other people cannot do well with that same experience, but for me every time I know why something works I can always go back to that, and I do a lot better.
http://jisho.org/words?jap=&eng=hiram&dict=edict
jisho.org seems to have name translations as well. “Names and places” is a drop down list option.
November 17, 2012 at 9:39 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37222Hmm yes, every time I look at Tae Kim’s site I get lost. Perhaps I’m not a very good student of grammar.
I have recently gotten a native Japanese girl to help tutor me, so that should help fill in some blanks. Although, in my experience, natives don’t know why things work, so they can’t answer that most important of questions for me.
November 13, 2012 at 5:58 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37208Yikes, you’re a braver man than I am. ;)
Still, as I approach the end of Textfugu I wonder how well I’ll understand new grammar without Koichi guiding the way.
November 12, 2012 at 7:19 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37199It has been a long time coming, but I finally finished Season 5, and just started Season 6! Yay!
Congrats! I just finished myself, as you can probably see. ;)
It was a tougher season to say the least. I suspect I will redo it once I’ve finished Textfugu.
November 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #37197It has been a long time coming, but I finally finished Season 5, and just started Season 6! Yay!
October 23, 2012 at 6:24 pm in reply to: TextFugu Season Completions for Great Motivation of Heart! #36758I accidentally got into the habit of not taking notes because early on it was pretty easy, and I knew some of it from previous studying. Currently, I’m taking the notes on a notepad because I find it helps me spend more time thinking about it.
Excellent! That’s exactly what I’m looking for!
Thanks!
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