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It will hold you back because of the 80-20 thingy explained by koichi, concentrating on every grammar rule, the time invested won’t return much useful information. It’s something you should be asking yourself actually, how valuable is this information? What use is it to you?
There are too many ‘professors’ out there, ‘professors’ know all there is to know about a subject yet know nothing. A japanese ‘professor’ can tell me that Kanji originated from oracle bone script in extraordinary detail and that desu infact doesn’t mean ‘it is’ and all kinds of trivia about Japan. But talk to them in basic japanese and their eyes glaze over.
Footnote:
words don’t map directly to eachother, they translate (as in transform) which results in a list of similar words.
word.translate(daijyoubu) returns [safe, ok, alright]
word.translate(ok) returns [daijyoubu, ii, yoi]
daijyoubu != ok
Words also mean different things in different places. e.g. “hand over” = “give” (hand = give, over = give)!
thankyou! (I wasn’t expecting an instant solution like that)
Starting right away
Thanks for the reality check on the liars.
I’m going to try dividing the study sessions on Anki. Actually I have a question about Anki too. When you start a new word you don’t know, and you see it for the first time: Are you expected to rate ‘good’ or ‘again’? My method right now is:
1. see new word
2. try to come up with mnemonic
3. hit ‘again’
4. repeat like, 10 times, until finally I can answer good
5. forget every word I just learnedJust googled AJAAT and the articles there are really interesting!
ah a bug
the textfugu fish doesn’t say your name
Variety Stick Rack! Nooooooo…. ;.;
But if this enforces consistency across the site I welcome the changes.
I find there are occasionally some …holes in textfugu’s anki decks. with either a “n/a” or “dunno, lol”. <.<
Can remember one I had to make up….
豕 pig. It's an animal with ground above it, (pigs covered in mud) and it's wearing a wet piece of clothing (like the clothes radical). so you got this sort of Porky Pig lookalike wearing his jacket, covered in mud.
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huw.
I spent a month non-stop studying from Koichi’s anki deck and since then, all forms of chinese characters jump out at me like words on a page.
人水皿白目立車元
Good news is, a lot of the radicals are actually identical to a Kanji, in fact if you know a lot of Kanji, you probably already know half of these, so it’s not going down a pointless detour by learning them. Keep that in mind.“When doing a story for a word, how are you going to know which word it is you need, when all other words in the sentence could also be the one you are looking for?”
That would only be a problem if a sentence was created out of multiple unknown words which would defeat the purpose of the technique. The idea is to create multiple connections leading to the same thing. A ‘hook’. If you’re half-fluent in a language, seeing patterns in similar words is the easiest hook, but if there’s no pattern or a weak pattern then the strongest hook is image memory I think.
I’m going to do one I don’t know right now as an example.
みのがす minogasu – to overlook, let pass.ME overlook the gas. there’s …NO GASU here.
The main thing is to then picture it as an image too. It’s a stupid thing to OVERLOOK deadly toxic gas, MEの speech has gone funny from being poisoned by the がす.
Wow that’s awful, filling my brain with that stupid story for one word. But there’s mutliple linked pathways to that memory now. What’s been created is scaffolding, every time the word’s successfully recalled, the story is less needed until it’s eventually forgotten (scaffolding removed) and only the word remains.
http://www.memory-improvement-tips.com/memory-systems.html
^ very usefulWrong way: Go from item to item, once you recognise it think to yourself: ‘yep, I know this’.
Right way:
Kanji/Radicals: Next item, write it down. Get its meaning. Once it quizzes you and you know the answer, don’t just think it, write it down. Even if you don’t know the stroke order. This significantly reduces the time taken to memorize.
Words: If there’s no crazy Koichi story with them then you’re gonna have to invent one. I went through half a year of smart.fm (I had no other work at the time) and really didn’t learn much even though I drilled a LOT. Without a story (or better yet, using them in context of speaking your own made up sentence) “kono doubutsu ha neko desu” they just don’t stick. It was really bad when I was trying to talk for the first time, and couldn’t remember the hundreds of words I’d learned.
Some (all?) of you may think ‘well DUH’ but I’m not that bright. : p And if I’d known this to begin with I’d have saved myself a lot of time.
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