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Elenkis: That’s where being a lifetime subscriber really pays off ;)
Multany, in regards to textfugu kanji keeping up with the lessons… if you’re behind or completely slacking, the bit of kanji that does actually show up in worksheets etc can be derived from the ‘all’ menu.
You can go back to the actual kanji lessons later, but when you do you’ll already know a few just from picking them up in lessons.
The Kanji portion of fugu is considered stand alone and is used along side the regular lessons, but there isn’t a set ‘you must know all these before proceeding’ mandate. Koichi just throws those in there to pressure you to learn it faster (in a good way).
The Kanji section here is fleshing out quickly btw… better and better every week.
On RTK for a moment… if you’re going through the heisig anki deck and don’t have the actual book, then it probably won’t do much for you.
Go and grab at least the sample PDF which has the first 275 or so, and read through the first few lessons, then set anki to only display up to that number in frames (the cards are labeled with their frame number).
I think the purpose of those fonts there is more to familiarize yourself with the kana regardless of how it is written. A lot of those fonts look more like scratchy handwriting.
Also, although there may be a popular group of fonts used in most web pages or street signs, things change quite a bit when it comes down to images with logos, business signage, etc
While I agree that anki, or flashcards alone isn’t very helpful… using it with textfugu is VERY helpful. Writing the vocab is also very helpful.
I don’t expect to walk into a japanese conversation and remember 1/10th of what I drill on anki, but drilling the words there, seeing, and hearing them DOES help in memorization at least to the point where when they come up in a lessson… I already know it and it has then been chiseled deeper into my brain (and having some knowledge of a word that comes up in a grammar lesson helps tie things together).
Keep in mind that most people going through textfugu are absolute beginners, and don’t have a lot of foundation just yet… anki helps us learn the vocab for the lessons. Once it is memorized if you don’t do anything else with it and just move on… fail.
One thing I’ve noticed lately after drilling through all this vocab is I’m starting to hear words and phrases in japanese, that used to be a sea of syllables. Words that jump out at me and I automatically know the meaning as soon as I hear them.
If you’re at more of an advanced level, I can see there would be a point that drilling anki would probably become less and less efficient. But starting out, we really don’t have a whole lot to anchor onto other than this.
I see anki/flashcards as simply the tack you’d use to place the word on your brain allowing you to leave it in place while removing your hands. Making mistakes while using the language, context, and understanding are the superglue that lock it into place.
I had to go back and check when I first signed up (paid) for textfugu… end of April this year (and probably spent about 2 weeks on the free lessons to make sure I’d get past the biggest “I quit” hurdle).
Currently I’ve just finished working through the last of the い adjectives in season 2 and ready to actually START learning some grammar again =).
Although I still feel lost in the language, I feel like I’ve learned a LOT of useful things (like, how to study vocab, how to study it more efficiently, and will learn how to study even more efficiently), and have not hit a real burn out point. Right now I’m in a race with Koichi… Will I finish season 2 before he finishes season 3
(that actually gives me a good reason to not worry about moving slowly).
Oh, and amazon finally confirmed they’ve shipped my copy of RTK 6th Ed… so my proficiency in wingdings should sky rocket soon ;)
Old, but one of the few Japanese bands I can really get into. The Pillows bring the rock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2cdhHgWZRkIf you hate the black-eyed peas, you’ll love this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MufJJ9Yj8MwNail on the head Sheepy. I knew they had something there worth a crap, but they’ve annoyed me so much I’ve avoided the site =)
I’ll check out some of their stuff soon.
done deal, and I’ll buy you a beer if I ever run into you in person =)
This may seem like a silly question, but is this a ‘lifetime’ sign up? I ask because although I’m not really to the point that I could use the site, I was looking forward to it at a later point. If this is a one shot deal I’m in…
(as long as you don’t spam infomercials about how awesome learning japanese is one time deal special offer like japanesepod101 =)
Glad to see you guys collaborating!
Words to live by =)
Rachel, are you supposed to imagine the people you are eating in their underwear?
I like kids, but I can’t eat a whole one.
Armando, my opinion here… but you’ll probably get alot more milage out of just taking practice tests online to gauge your own progress. Traveling to another country just to take level 5 seems like a waste of money for a test that isn’t going to do a whole lot for you at your age (other than confirm with yourself your own proficiency, which you can do for free at home).
Kyle, Thanks for using those examples… good to know what those circles actually mean! (first time I’ve seen that):
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まるまる
symbol used as a placeholder (either because a number of other words could be used in that position, or because of censorship)
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