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I just listen to a lot of music, podcasts, audio from anime and movies, j-drama… what have you.
I’m not gonna do this while I sleep tho :PIt’s okay, Kaona-chan. It’s okay…
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Last Login: less than 5 seconds ago”But it’s true :D
Well, of course, he’s an elitist prick and loves downplaying himself :D
He’s for going “all the way” of course, that’s the point of his method. No pain , no gain. But instead of pain, it’s having fun in japanese. Playing “winnable games”.
You don’t learn grammar rules ,but you get a feeling of what sounds right when and where, which is essentially the same but faster in the rbain.AJATT is basically saying that you should learn Japanese like a little kid did. He claims there is no grammar, because if you learn sentences naturally you’ll “feel” if soemthing sounds right or wrong.
As for your mother tongue, you’re probably aware of the grammar rules, but when trying to say something, you won’t think about grammar, it will just come out.TextFugu is great for laying a solid foundation. What AJATT can add to it for you is a lot of listening comprehension, developing a feel for the actual spoken language, how things get abbreviated and simplified in casual speech like with out own mother tongues.
RTK can take you 3 months to a year, if you’re determined. If you go with 25 new kanji EVERY DAY, you will be done in 3 months of time. Keep in mind tho, that you’ll also stockpile a BUNCH OF REVIEWS, which are very important to keep track of. You have to do your reviews to get the kanji into long-term memory. With 25 new kanji a day and all the reviews, you’ll be pretty busy.
Don’t try to rush the book, because the weight of the reviews will drag you down and make you give up sooner or later.
You don’t have to go AJATT 100%, take the parts that are good for you – motivation, having fun with what you do and not just “studying”, building listening comprehension and appreciating what you have learned already. Breaking mental barriers of “I will never get it” or “I’m too old for this”.
AJATT says “there be no grammar”, which is true for your native language… you don’t think of possesive particles when making sentences or speaking, it’s TOO DAMN SLOW to do so. You rather wanna be learning Japanese to the point where it flows out of you by itself. Learning grammar can help this process as well as learning/copying good japanese like a child would do.
if you start with RTK, go with your own pace. If you rush it and feel like quitting after a month, you’ll get less done than when you took it leisurely, but daily. Set a minimum number to study EVERY DAY. You can do more, if you feel like it. But make that number small. Like 5-15 at max. If you feel energetic, do 25 or 30, or even 50 somedays. But keep them reviews going.
Cheers.
PS: You need to have fun with your kanji, have fun remembering and creating stories. Sometimes you have to ditch everything and just rote memorize some weird kanji or give them a small, but memorable pun story.
Get yourself a nice DIN A 5 textblock with squares and write your reviewd kanji down, fill the sheets with kanji. One day, you’ll have the whole block filled and feel proud.
I already have over 9000 reviews under my belt and approx. 1600 kanji down.-
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Revenant.
Yes, apparently there is no such feature available just yet.
What RTK does is taking the smallest possible elements that make up kanji, much like the radicals, and make “primitives” out of them. Primitives are similar but not the same as radicals. Depending on their position in a particular kanji they can take on different nuances of meaning. For example the kanji for month 月 can (when used as a primitive) be “flesh” or “part of the body”, depending on where it is positioned.
You then take apart a new kanji to be learned and create a story around it, which can be as small as a little pun. This story always contains all the primitives used in the kanji, which itself is given a meaning here called “keyword”, because this meaning is not always 100% what the kanji really is used for. This is due to having over 2000 kanji, and to keep every keyword unique.
These stories are as vivid and weird as it gets, so your brain will remember which primitives to assemble when seeing a particular keyword. If you see the kanji for near for example, you could use this story (or your own, or one of many others provided in the community which formed around this book) “The end is near. The *axe*-murderer is waiting for you on the *road*…” where *axe* and *road* are the two primitives making up the kanji for near. You will be able to perfectly write this out correctly without a second thought.
The only thing RTK doesn’t do is teaching any readings. You won’t learn on or kun yomi!
This is to be picked up later, when you learn vocabulary by learning whole sentences using a word with a kanji in it. You then learn how to read it in context, as doing this will be much more easier than ever before: All the kanji will be something for you. No scribbles, you know all the forms, plus a vague meaning.
RTK does only what it claims: Teaching the writing and meaning of some 2100 kanji characters (all the yoyo-kanji!). FInishing this book means you’ll never see an unfamiliar kanji within reason (newspaper, official texts; not necessarly fiction).
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If you wanna learn the meaning and how to write all the relevant kanji (3020 currently, but only 2100 is required), I can only recommend remembering the kanji by james heisig.
PM me if you’re interested and I could tell you the differences to textfugus approach.Welcome.
Even tho Japanese is just another language too, I, too, have been enticed by its beauty.Have a lot of fun learning and enjoying it!
Might wanna give the (advanced) learning method of AJATT a try. Learning vocabulary in simple “n+1″ sentences, where every sentence stretches your knowledge a tiny bit.
Requires kanji knowledge tho, as you wanna read the japanese sentence with kanji while having understood the meaning (not literally translate).Hit up http://tatoeba.org/ they have tons of sentences for particular words you might be interested in. Some sentences are a bit too advaned tho.
You should start to have fun with japanese. Give watching native material a try. There’s J-Drama, Movies and Anime with japanese subtitles.
You don’t have to understand a lot or anything. It’s getting used to the language and having fun with it. You may wanna avoid english subs for the purpose of learning, but it would still be better than nothing at all in this direction.Here you shall find a lot of inspiration:
Keep up reviewing and studying at your pace tho! Don’t get overwhelmed by the vast possibilities.
Hey there, Adrian.
Go steady and you shall achieve.Also you might wanna go over to
And read some inspiring articles =)
But don’t get thrown off by too many possibilities to study and just go for it instead!Good luck, have fun and feel free to ask questions all the time.
Today I learned that there still is a lot to learn (and review). Again.
Gratz on brushing up your “important vocab” Michael =)I’m Zerg. For the swarm and stuff. I never Zergling-rush, because it is simple to defend and boring. I enjoy my macro game and sneaky tactics. And vomit. I love vomitting queens. BLÖRRG!!
Good luck then, because that’s what I just finished =) You won’t see a lot of Neurosciecne until later semesters tho.. well, depends on your chosen study field in biology, cuz I went general (back in the day there weren’t that many different ones, now there’s biotech, biomed, evolution etc..).
Kaona, you’re so lucky ;/
Yeah I have my Bachelors examination on monday and then will satrt my masters program in octobre.I am too shy :3
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